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From: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained control of over memory.high action
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:56:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200817165608.GA58383@chrisdown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALvZod5V3N3K9-tDoaq=JgkeuAK=0TkRf97Vua0khXL+Lxw+Pg@mail.gmail.com>

Shakeel Butt writes:
>> Sometimes, memory reclaim may not be able to recover memory in a rate
>> that can catch up to the physical memory allocation rate especially
>> when rotating disks are used for swapping or writing dirty pages. In
>> this case, the physical memory consumption will keep on increasing.
>
>Isn't this the real underlying issue? Why not make the guarantees of
>memory.high more strict instead of adding more interfaces and
>complexity?

Oh, thanks Shakeel for bringing this up. I missed this in the original 
changelog and I'm surprised that it's mentioned, since we do have protections 
against that.

Waiman, we already added artificial throttling if memory reclaim is not 
sufficiently achieved in 0e4b01df8659 ("mm, memcg: throttle allocators when 
failing reclaim over memory.high"), which has been present since v5.4. This 
should significantly inhibit physical memory consumption from increasing. What 
problems are you having with that? :-)

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-17 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-17 14:08 [RFC PATCH 0/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained per process memory control Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained control of over memory.high action Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:30   ` Chris Down
2020-08-17 15:38     ` Waiman Long
2020-08-17 16:11       ` Chris Down
2020-08-17 16:44   ` Shakeel Butt
2020-08-17 16:56     ` Chris Down [this message]
2020-08-18 19:12       ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18 19:14     ` Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] memcg, mm: Return ENOMEM or delay if memcg_over_limit Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] memcg: Allow the use of task RSS memory as over-high action trigger Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] fs/proc: Support a new procfs memctl file Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] memcg: Allow direct per-task memory limit checking Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] memcg: Introduce additional memory control slowdown if needed Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] memcg: Enable logging of memory control mitigation action Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] memcg: Add over-high action prctl() documentation Waiman Long
2020-08-17 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained per process memory control Michal Hocko
2020-08-17 15:55   ` Waiman Long
2020-08-17 19:26     ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 19:20       ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18  9:14 ` peterz
2020-08-18  9:26   ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18  9:59     ` peterz
2020-08-18 10:05       ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 10:18         ` peterz
2020-08-18 10:30           ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 10:36             ` peterz
2020-08-18 13:49           ` Johannes Weiner
2020-08-21 19:37             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-24 16:58               ` Johannes Weiner
2020-09-07 11:47                 ` Chris Down
2020-09-09 11:53                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 10:17       ` Chris Down
2020-08-18 10:26         ` peterz
2020-08-18 10:35           ` Chris Down
2020-08-23  2:49         ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18  9:27   ` Chris Down
2020-08-18 10:04     ` peterz
2020-08-18 12:55       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-20  6:11         ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-18 19:30     ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18 19:27   ` Waiman Long

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