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From: peterz@infradead.org
To: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained per process memory control
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 12:04:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200818100444.GN2674@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200818092737.GA148695@chrisdown.name>

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 10:27:37AM +0100, Chris Down wrote:
> peterz@infradead.org writes:
> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:08:23AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> > > Memory controller can be used to control and limit the amount of
> > > physical memory used by a task. When a limit is set in "memory.high" in
> > > a v2 non-root memory cgroup, the memory controller will try to reclaim
> > > memory if the limit has been exceeded. Normally, that will be enough
> > > to keep the physical memory consumption of tasks in the memory cgroup
> > > to be around or below the "memory.high" limit.
> > > 
> > > Sometimes, memory reclaim may not be able to recover memory in a rate
> > > that can catch up to the physical memory allocation rate. In this case,
> > > the physical memory consumption will keep on increasing.
> > 
> > Then slow down the allocator? That's what we do for dirty pages too, we
> > slow down the dirtier when we run against the limits.
> 
> We already do that since v5.4. I'm wondering whether Waiman's customer is
> just running with a too-old kernel without 0e4b01df865 ("mm, memcg: throttle
> allocators when failing reclaim over memory.high") backported.

That commit is fundamentally broken, it doesn't guarantee anything.

Please go read how the dirty throttling works (unless people wrecked
that since..).

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-18 10:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-17 14:08 Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained control of over memory.high action Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:30   ` Chris Down
2020-08-17 15:38     ` Waiman Long
2020-08-17 16:11       ` Chris Down
2020-08-17 16:44   ` Shakeel Butt
2020-08-17 16:56     ` Chris Down
2020-08-18 19:12       ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18 19:14     ` Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] memcg, mm: Return ENOMEM or delay if memcg_over_limit Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] memcg: Allow the use of task RSS memory as over-high action trigger Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] fs/proc: Support a new procfs memctl file Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] memcg: Allow direct per-task memory limit checking Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] memcg: Introduce additional memory control slowdown if needed Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] memcg: Enable logging of memory control mitigation action Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] memcg: Add over-high action prctl() documentation Waiman Long
2020-08-17 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained per process memory control Michal Hocko
2020-08-17 15:55   ` Waiman Long
2020-08-17 19:26     ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 19:20       ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18  9:14 ` peterz
2020-08-18  9:26   ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18  9:59     ` peterz
2020-08-18 10:05       ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 10:18         ` peterz
2020-08-18 10:30           ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 10:36             ` peterz
2020-08-18 13:49           ` Johannes Weiner
2020-08-21 19:37             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-24 16:58               ` Johannes Weiner
2020-09-07 11:47                 ` Chris Down
2020-09-09 11:53                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 10:17       ` Chris Down
2020-08-18 10:26         ` peterz
2020-08-18 10:35           ` Chris Down
2020-08-23  2:49         ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18  9:27   ` Chris Down
2020-08-18 10:04     ` peterz [this message]
2020-08-18 12:55       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-20  6:11         ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-18 19:30     ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18 19:27   ` Waiman Long

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