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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Christian Schoenebeck <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	"Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Frank van der Linden <fllinden@amazon.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivan@redhat.com>,
	Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>,
	Chirantan Ekbote <chirantan@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: file forks vs. xattr (was: xattr names for unprivileged stacking?)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 15:25:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200827142546.GI14765@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <159855515.fZZa9nWDzX@silver>

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 04:23:24PM +0200, Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> On Donnerstag, 27. August 2020 16:01:07 CEST Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 03:48:57PM +0200, Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> > > On Donnerstag, 27. August 2020 14:25:55 CEST Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 02:02:42PM +0200, Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> > > > > What I could imagine as delimiter instead; slash-caret:
> > > > >     /var/foo.pdf/^/forkname
> > > > 
> > > > Any ascii character is going to be used in some actual customer
> > > > workload.
> > > 
> > > Not exactly. "/foo/^/bar" is already a valid path today. So every Linux
> > > system (incl. all libs/apps) must be capable to deal with that path
> > > already, so it would not introduce a tokenization problem.
> > 
> > That's exactly the point.  I can guarantee you that some customer is
> > already using a file named exactly '^'.
> 
> You are contradicting yourself. Ditching the idea because a file "^" might 
> exist, implies ditching your idea of "💩" as it might already exist as well.

That's because THIS IS A SHIT IDEA.

> > You misunderstood.  This was my way of telling you that your idea is shit.
> 
> Be invited for making better suggestions. But one thing please: don't start 
> getting offending.

Oh, fuck off.

> No matter which delimiter you'd choose, something will break. It is just about 
> how much will it break und how likely it'll be in practice, not if.
> 
> If you are concerned about not breaking anything: keep forks disabled.

My way of keeping forks disabled is to tell you to fuck off.  You
can keep fucking off until you get there.  Then fuck off some more.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-27 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-28 10:55 xattr names for unprivileged stacking? Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-07-28 13:08 ` Greg Kurz
2020-07-28 13:55   ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-08-04 11:28     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-04 13:51       ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-08-12 11:18         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-12 13:34           ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-08-12 14:33             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-13  9:01               ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-08-16 22:56                 ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-16 23:09                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-17  0:29                     ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-17 10:37                       ` file forks vs. xattr (was: xattr names for unprivileged stacking?) Christian Schoenebeck
2020-08-23 23:40                         ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-24 15:30                           ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-08-24 20:01                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-08-24 21:26                             ` Frank van der Linden
2020-08-24 22:29                             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-08-25 15:12                               ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-08-25 15:32                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-08-27 12:02                                   ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-08-27 12:25                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-27 13:48                                       ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-08-27 14:01                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-27 14:23                                           ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-08-27 14:25                                             ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2020-08-27 14:44                                             ` Al Viro
2020-08-27 16:29                                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-27 16:35                                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-28  9:11                                                 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-08-28 14:46                                                   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-08-27 15:22                       ` xattr names for unprivileged stacking? Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-27 22:24                         ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-29 16:07                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-29 16:13                             ` Al Viro
2020-08-29 17:51                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-08-29 18:04                                 ` Al Viro
2020-08-29 18:22                                   ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-08-29 19:13                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-08-29 19:25                                     ` Al Viro
2020-08-30 19:05                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-08-30 19:10                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-31  7:34                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-08-31 11:37                                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-31 11:51                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-08-31 13:23                                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-31 14:21                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-08-31 14:25                                                   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-08-31 14:45                                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-31 14:49                                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-09-01  3:34                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2020-09-01 14:52                                                       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-09-01 15:14                                                         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-09-02  5:19                                                           ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-31 18:02                                                   ` Andreas Dilger
2020-09-01  3:48                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-29 19:17                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-29 19:40                                 ` Al Viro
2020-08-29 20:12                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-31 14:23                                     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-08-31 14:40                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-31 16:11                                       ` Christian Schoenebeck

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