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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>
Cc: "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] Add manpage for open_tree(2)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 02:20:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKgNAkhFqbKDrnTuT6zTK6GzqeAemddwUivLyKebotJaDnVKmQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <402ceb27-0f63-e7f0-c58d-de0fe4c86f56@gmail.com>

Hello David,

I've pinged on these manual pages for the new mount API already a few
times in the past.

I would really like to get them out the door, but some work is
required, and I can't do it on my own; I need your help. In
particular, there are a number of open questions that I do not feel
confident at guessing the answer.

How can I get your help please with completing these pages?

I will ping on all of the other mails, just to raise all the patches
to the top of the inbox.

Thanks,

Michael


On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 13:01, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
<mtk.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello David,
>
> Can I ask that you please reply to each of my mails, rather than
> just sending out a new patch series (which of course I would also
> like  you to do). Some things that I mentioned in the last mails
> got lost, and I end up having to repeat them.
>
> So, even where I say "please change this", could you please reply with
> "done", or a reason why you declined the suggested change, is useful.
> But in any case, a few words in reply to explain the other changes
> that you make would be helpful.
>
> Also, some of my questions now will get a little more complex, and as
> well as you updating the pages, I think a little discussion may be
> required in some cases.
>
> On 8/24/20 2:24 PM, David Howells wrote:
> > Add a manual page to document the open_tree() system call.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
> > ---
> >
> >  man2/open_tree.2 |  249 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 249 insertions(+)
> >  create mode 100644 man2/open_tree.2
> >
> > diff --git a/man2/open_tree.2 b/man2/open_tree.2
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000..d480bd82f
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/man2/open_tree.2
> > @@ -0,0 +1,249 @@
> > +'\" t
> > +.\" Copyright (c) 2020 David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
> > +.\"
> > +.\" %%%LICENSE_START(VERBATIM)
> > +.\" Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of this
> > +.\" manual provided the copyright notice and this permission notice are
> > +.\" preserved on all copies.
> > +.\"
> > +.\" Permission is granted to copy and distribute modified versions of this
> > +.\" manual under the conditions for verbatim copying, provided that the
> > +.\" entire resulting derived work is distributed under the terms of a
> > +.\" permission notice identical to this one.
> > +.\"
> > +.\" Since the Linux kernel and libraries are constantly changing, this
> > +.\" manual page may be incorrect or out-of-date.  The author(s) assume no
> > +.\" responsibility for errors or omissions, or for damages resulting from
> > +.\" the use of the information contained herein.  The author(s) may not
> > +.\" have taken the same level of care in the production of this manual,
> > +.\" which is licensed free of charge, as they might when working
> > +.\" professionally.
> > +.\"
> > +.\" Formatted or processed versions of this manual, if unaccompanied by
> > +.\" the source, must acknowledge the copyright and authors of this work.
> > +.\" %%%LICENSE_END
> > +.\"
> > +.TH OPEN_TREE 2 2020-08-24 "Linux" "Linux Programmer's Manual"
> > +.SH NAME
> > +open_tree \- Pick or clone mount object and attach to fd
> > +.SH SYNOPSIS
> > +.nf
> > +.B #include <sys/types.h>
> > +.B #include <sys/mount.h>
> > +.B #include <unistd.h>
> > +.BR "#include <fcntl.h>           " "/* Definition of AT_* constants */"
> > +.PP
> > +.BI "int open_tree(int " dirfd ", const char *" pathname ", unsigned int " flags );
> > +.fi
> > +.PP
> > +.IR Note :
> > +There are no glibc wrappers for these system calls.
> > +.SH DESCRIPTION
> > +.BR open_tree ()
> > +picks the mount object specified by the pathname and attaches it to a new file
>
> The terminology "pick" is unusual, and you never really explain what
> it means.  Is there better terminology? In any case, can you add a few
> words to explain what the term (('pick" or whatever alternative you
> come up with) means.
>
> > +descriptor or clones it and attaches the clone to the file descriptor.  The
>
> Please replace "it" by a noun (phrase) -- maybe: "the mount object"?
>
> > +resultant file descriptor is indistinguishable from one produced by
> > +.BR open "(2) with " O_PATH .
>
> What is the significance of that last piece? Can you add some words
> about why the fact that the resulting FD is indistinguishable from one
> produced by open() O_PATH matters or is useful?
>
> > +.PP
> > +In the case that the mount object is cloned, the clone will be "unmounted" and
>
> You place "unmounted" in quotes. Why? Is this to signify that the the
> unmount is somehow different from other unmounts? If so, please
> explain how it is different.  If not, then I think we can lose the double
> quotes.
>
> > +destroyed when the file descriptor is closed if it is not otherwise mounted
> > +somewhere by calling
> > +.BR move_mount (2).
> > +.PP
> > +To select a mount object, no permissions are required on the object referred
>
> Here you use the word "select". Is this the same as "pick"? If yes, please
> use the same term.
>
> > +to by the path, but execute (search) permission is required on all of the
>
> s/the path/.I pathname/ ?
>
> (Where pathname == "the pathname argument)
>
> > +directories in
> > +.I pathname
> > +that lead to the object.
> > +.PP
> > +Appropriate privilege (Linux: the
>
> s/Linux: //
> (This is a Linux specific system call...)
>
> > +.B CAP_SYS_ADMIN
> > +capability) is required to clone mount objects.
> > +.PP
> > +.BR open_tree ()
> > +uses
> > +.IR pathname ", " dirfd " and " flags
> > +to locate the target object in one of a variety of ways:
> > +.TP
> > +[*] By absolute path.
> > +.I pathname
> > +points to an absolute path and
> > +.I dirfd
> > +is ignored.  The object is looked up by name, starting from the root of the
> > +filesystem as seen by the calling process.
> > +.TP
> > +[*] By cwd-relative path.
> > +.I pathname
> > +points to a relative path and
> > +.IR dirfd " is " AT_FDCWD .
> > +The object is looked up by name, starting from the current working directory.
> > +.TP
> > +[*] By dir-relative path.
> > +.I pathname
> > +points to relative path and
> > +.I dirfd
> > +indicates a file descriptor pointing to a directory.  The object is looked up
> > +by name, starting from the directory specified by
> > +.IR dirfd .
> > +.TP
> > +[*] By file descriptor.
> > +.I pathname
> > +is "",
> > +.I dirfd
> > +indicates a file descriptor and
> > +.B AT_EMPTY_PATH
> > +is set in
> > +.IR flags .
> > +The mount attached to the file descriptor is queried directly.  The file
> > +descriptor may point to any type of file, not just a directory.
>
> I want to check here. Is it really *any* type of file? Can it be a UNIX
> domain socket or a char/block device or a FIFO?
>
> > +.PP
> > +.I flags
> > +can be used to control the operation of the function and to influence a
> > +path-based lookup.  A value for
> > +.I flags
> > +is constructed by OR'ing together zero or more of the following constants:
> > +.TP
> > +.BR AT_EMPTY_PATH
> > +.\" commit 65cfc6722361570bfe255698d9cd4dccaf47570d
> > +If
> > +.I pathname
> > +is an empty string, operate on the file referred to by
> > +.IR dirfd
> > +(which may have been obtained from
> > +.BR open "(2) with"
> > +.BR O_PATH ", from " fsmount (2)
> > +or from another
>
> s/another/a previous call to/
>
> > +.BR open_tree ()).
> > +If
> > +.I dirfd
> > +is
> > +.BR AT_FDCWD ,
> > +the call operates on the current working directory.
> > +In this case,
> > +.I dirfd
> > +can refer to any type of file, not just a directory.
> > +This flag is Linux-specific; define
> > +.B _GNU_SOURCE
> > +.\" Before glibc 2.16, defining _ATFILE_SOURCE sufficed
> > +to obtain its definition.
> > +.TP
> > +.BR AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT
> > +Don't automount the final ("basename") component of
> > +.I pathname
> > +if it is a directory that is an automount point.  This flag allows the
> > +automount point itself to be picked up or a mount cloned that is rooted on the
> > +automount point.  The
> > +.B AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT
> > +flag has no effect if the mount point has already been mounted over.
> > +This flag is Linux-specific; define
> > +.B _GNU_SOURCE
> > +.\" Before glibc 2.16, defining _ATFILE_SOURCE sufficed
> > +to obtain its definition.
> > +.TP
> > +.B AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW
> > +If
> > +.I pathname
> > +is a symbolic link, do not dereference it: instead pick up or clone a mount
> > +rooted on the link itself.
> > +.TP
> > +.B OPEN_TREE_CLOEXEC
> > +Set the close-on-exec flag for the new file descriptor.  This will cause the
> > +file descriptor to be closed automatically when a process exec's.
> > +.TP
> > +.B OPEN_TREE_CLONE
> > +Rather than directly attaching the selected object to the file descriptor,
> > +clone the object, set the root of the new mount object to that point and
>
> Could you expand on "that point" a little. It's not quite clear to me what
> you mean there.
>
> > +attach the clone to the file descriptor.
> > +.TP
> > +.B AT_RECURSIVE
> > +This is only permitted in conjunction with OPEN_TREE_CLONE.  It causes the
> > +entire mount subtree rooted at the selected spot to be cloned rather than just
>
> Is there a better word than "spot"?
>
> > +that one mount object.
> > +.SH RETURN VALUE
> > +On success, the new file descriptor is returned.  On error, \-1 is returned,
> > +and
> > +.I errno
> > +is set appropriately.
> > +.SH ERRORS
> > +.TP
> > +.B EACCES
> > +Search permission is denied for one of the directories
> > +in the path prefix of
> > +.IR pathname .
> > +(See also
> > +.BR path_resolution (7).)
> > +.TP
> > +.B EBADF
> > +.I dirfd
> > +is not a valid open file descriptor.
> > +.TP
> > +.B EFAULT
> > +.I pathname
> > +is NULL or
> > +.IR pathname
> > +point to a location outside the process's accessible address space.
> > +.TP
> > +.B EINVAL
> > +Reserved flag specified in
> > +.IR flags .
> > +.TP
> > +.B ELOOP
> > +Too many symbolic links encountered while traversing the pathname.
> > +.TP
> > +.B ENAMETOOLONG
> > +.I pathname
> > +is too long.
> > +.TP
> > +.B ENOENT
> > +A component of
> > +.I pathname
> > +does not exist, or
> > +.I pathname
> > +is an empty string and
> > +.B AT_EMPTY_PATH
> > +was not specified in
> > +.IR flags .
> > +.TP
> > +.B ENOMEM
> > +Out of memory (i.e., kernel memory).
> > +.TP
> > +.B ENOTDIR
> > +A component of the path prefix of
> > +.I pathname
> > +is not a directory or
> > +.I pathname
> > +is relative and
> > +.I dirfd
> > +is a file descriptor referring to a file other than a directory.
> > +.SH VERSIONS
> > +.BR open_tree ()
> > +was added to Linux in kernel 5.2.
> > +.SH CONFORMING TO
> > +.BR open_tree ()
> > +is Linux-specific.
> > +.SH NOTES
> > +Glibc does not (yet) provide a wrapper for the
> > +.BR open_tree ()
> > +system call; call it using
> > +.BR syscall (2).
>
> What's the current status with respect to glibc support? Is it coming/is
> someone working on this?
>
> > +.SH EXAMPLE
>
> s/EXAMPLE/EXAMPLES/
> (That's the standard section header name these days.)
>
> > +The
> > +.BR open_tree ()
> > +function can be used like the following:
>
> The following example does a recursive bind mount, right?
> Can you please add some words to say that explicitly.
>
> > +.PP
> > +.RS
> > +.nf
> > +fd1 = open_tree(AT_FDCWD, "/mnt", 0);
> > +fd2 = open_tree(fd1, "",
> > +                AT_EMPTY_PATH | OPEN_TREE_CLONE | AT_RECURSIVE);
> > +move_mount(fd2, "", AT_FDCWD, "/mnt2", MOVE_MOUNT_F_EMPTY_PATH);
> > +.fi
> > +.RE
> > +.PP
> > +This would attach the path point for "/mnt" to fd1, then it would copy the
>
> What is a "path point"? This is not standard terminology. Can you
> replace this with something better?
>
> > +entire subtree at the point referred to by fd1 and attach that to fd2; lastly,
> > +it would attach the clone to "/mnt2".
> > +.SH SEE ALSO
> > +.BR fsmount (2),
> > +.BR move_mount (2),
> > +.BR open (2)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
>
> --
> Michael Kerrisk
> Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
> Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/



-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-13  0:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-24 12:24 David Howells
2020-08-24 12:24 ` [PATCH 2/5] Add manpages for move_mount(2) David Howells
2020-08-27 11:04   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-08-13  0:21     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-01-22  8:39   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-08-24 12:24 ` [PATCH 3/5] Add manpage for fspick(2) David Howells
2020-08-27 11:05   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-08-13  0:22     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-01-22  8:40   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-08-24 12:25 ` [PATCH 4/5] Add manpage for fsopen(2) and fsmount(2) David Howells
2020-08-27 11:07   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-08-13  0:22     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-02 15:01   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-02 16:14   ` David Howells
2020-09-02 20:14     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-11 12:44       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-16  6:50         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-01-22  8:41           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-08-24 12:25 ` [PATCH 5/5] Add manpage for fsconfig(2) David Howells
2020-08-27 11:07   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-08-13  0:23     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-01-22  8:40   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-08-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 1/5] Add manpage for open_tree(2) Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-01-22  8:39   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-08-13  0:20   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2021-02-25 19:03 ` Aurélien Aptel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-08-07 14:02 David Howells
2020-08-22 20:01 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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