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From: "Satoshi UCHIDA" <s-uchida@ap.jp.nec.com>
To: "'Peter Zijlstra'" <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "'Vivek Goyal'" <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	"'Nauman Rafique'" <nauman@google.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	<jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	"'Hirokazu Takahashi'" <taka@valinux.co.jp>,
	"'Ryo Tsuruta'" <ryov@valinux.co.jp>,
	"'Andrea Righi'" <righi.andrea@gmail.com>,
	<fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp>, <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"'Andrew Morton'" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<menage@google.com>, <ngupta@google.com>,
	"'Rik van Riel'" <riel@redhat.com>,
	"'Jeff Moyer'" <jmoyer@redhat.com>, <dpshah@google.com>,
	"'Mike Waychison'" <mikew@google.com>, <rohitseth@google.com>,
	"'Fabio Checconi'" <fchecconi@gmail.com>,
	<paolo.valente@unimore.it>
Subject: RE: [patch 0/4] [RFC] Another proportional weight IO controller
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:06:31 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000001c94640$aafedb10$00fc9130$@jp.nec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1226649735.7685.6917.camel@twins>

Hi, Vivek.

> > I think that a controller should be divided share among "/(root)" and
> two groups.
> > This reason is follows:
> >
> >   * If these tasks are handled at same level, it is enough by using a
> traditional
> >     CFQ scheduler.
> >     If you want to make all tasks in the same group the same
> priority(parameter),
> >     It is not I/O control but is parameter control.
> >
> >   * I think that the group means the environment which makes some sense
> and
> >     user want to control I/O per groups.
> >     Next, the group is the environment.  So, tasks within the group will
> have
> >     priorities for themselves respectively as traditional environment.
> >     Of course, group may not be need to control I/O.
> >     In such time, a ioprio of tasks should be set the same priority.
> >
> > Therefore, our scheduler controls among group and then among tasks
> 
> I would suggest abandoning this scheme as its different from how the CPU
> scheduler does it. The CPU scheduler is fully hierarchical and tasks in
> "/" are on the same level as groups in "/".
> 
> That is, we do:
> 
>       root
>       / | \
>      1  2  A
>           / \
>          B   3
>         / \
>        4   5
> 
> Where digits are tasks, and letters are groups.
> 
> Having the two bandwidth (CPU, I/O) doing different things wrt grouping
> can only be confusing at best.
> 


I understand what you mean is as follows.
CPU power for 4 is calculated by 100% * a ratio of A (among 1, 2 and A) *
a ratio of B (among 3 and B) * ratio of 4 (among 4 and 5).
However, I/O power for 4 is calculated by 100% * a ratio of B (among root, A and B) *
a ratio of 4 (among 4 and 5).
Therefore, its power expression is a different and then user will confuse.

So, in other cgroups controllers, children(tasks and groups) of a group are flat, 
but in CFQ cgroups controllers, all groups are flat.


I agree this opinion.

I think that CFQ should support multiple layers, and 
its improvement would be easy (by nesting cfq_data tree) probably.



  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-14 10:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-06 15:30 vgoyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 1/4] io controller: documentation vgoyal
2008-11-07  2:32   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 14:27     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-10  2:48   ` Li Zefan
2008-11-10 13:44     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 2/4] io controller: biocgroup implementation vgoyal
2008-11-07  2:50   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07  4:19     ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-11-07 14:44     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementation logic vgoyal
2008-11-07  3:21   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 14:50     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-08  2:35       ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementationlogic KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-11  8:50   ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementation logic Gui Jianfeng
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 4/4] io controller: Put IO controller to use in device mapper and standard make_request() function vgoyal
2008-11-06 15:49 ` [patch 0/4] [RFC] Another proportional weight IO controller Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:01   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 16:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:39       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 16:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:57           ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-06 17:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-07  0:41               ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-07 10:31                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-09  9:40                   ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-06 17:08           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 23:07             ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-07 14:19               ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-07 21:36                 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-10 14:11                   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-11 19:55                     ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-11 22:30                       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-12 21:20                         ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-13 13:49                           ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-13 18:08                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 19:15                             ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-13 22:27                               ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-13 23:10                                 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-14  4:58                             ` Satoshi UCHIDA
2008-11-14  8:02                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-14 10:06                                 ` Satoshi UCHIDA [this message]
2008-11-06 16:47       ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-07  2:36 ` Gui Jianfeng
2008-11-07 13:38   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13  9:05 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-13 15:58   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 18:41     ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-13 21:46       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 22:57         ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-14 16:05           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-14 22:44             ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-17 14:23               ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18  2:02                 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-18  5:01                   ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18  7:42                     ` Li Zefan
2008-11-18 22:23                       ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 12:05                     ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 14:07                       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 14:41                         ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 19:12                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-18 19:47                             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 21:14                             ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19  1:52                               ` Aaron Carroll
2008-11-19 10:17                                 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 11:06                                   ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-20  4:45                                     ` Aaron Carroll
2008-11-20  6:56                                       ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 14:30                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-19 15:52                                 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 23:07                             ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-19 14:24                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-20  0:12                                 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-20  8:16                                   ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-20 13:40                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 19:54                                       ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-20 21:15                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 22:42                                           ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-21 15:22                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-26  6:40                                       ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-26 15:18                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 21:31                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-21  3:05                             ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-21 14:58                               ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-21 15:21                                 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 22:33                       ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 23:44                         ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19  7:09                         ` Paolo Valente
2008-11-13 22:13     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20  9:20       ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-20 13:47         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-25  2:33           ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-25 16:27             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-25 22:38               ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-26 14:06                 ` Paolo Valente
2008-11-26 19:41                   ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-26 22:21                     ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-26 11:55               ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-26 12:47               ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-26 16:08                 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-27  8:43                   ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-28  3:09                     ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-28 13:33                   ` Ryo Tsuruta

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