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From: "Satoshi UCHIDA" <s-uchida@ap.jp.nec.com>
To: "'Peter Zijlstra'" <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "'Vivek Goyal'" <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
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Subject: RE: [patch 0/4] [RFC] Another proportional weight IO controller
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:06:31 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <000001c94640$aafedb10$00fc9130$@jp.nec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1226649735.7685.6917.camel@twins>
Hi, Vivek.
> > I think that a controller should be divided share among "/(root)" and
> two groups.
> > This reason is follows:
> >
> > * If these tasks are handled at same level, it is enough by using a
> traditional
> > CFQ scheduler.
> > If you want to make all tasks in the same group the same
> priority(parameter),
> > It is not I/O control but is parameter control.
> >
> > * I think that the group means the environment which makes some sense
> and
> > user want to control I/O per groups.
> > Next, the group is the environment. So, tasks within the group will
> have
> > priorities for themselves respectively as traditional environment.
> > Of course, group may not be need to control I/O.
> > In such time, a ioprio of tasks should be set the same priority.
> >
> > Therefore, our scheduler controls among group and then among tasks
>
> I would suggest abandoning this scheme as its different from how the CPU
> scheduler does it. The CPU scheduler is fully hierarchical and tasks in
> "/" are on the same level as groups in "/".
>
> That is, we do:
>
> root
> / | \
> 1 2 A
> / \
> B 3
> / \
> 4 5
>
> Where digits are tasks, and letters are groups.
>
> Having the two bandwidth (CPU, I/O) doing different things wrt grouping
> can only be confusing at best.
>
I understand what you mean is as follows.
CPU power for 4 is calculated by 100% * a ratio of A (among 1, 2 and A) *
a ratio of B (among 3 and B) * ratio of 4 (among 4 and 5).
However, I/O power for 4 is calculated by 100% * a ratio of B (among root, A and B) *
a ratio of 4 (among 4 and 5).
Therefore, its power expression is a different and then user will confuse.
So, in other cgroups controllers, children(tasks and groups) of a group are flat,
but in CFQ cgroups controllers, all groups are flat.
I agree this opinion.
I think that CFQ should support multiple layers, and
its improvement would be easy (by nesting cfq_data tree) probably.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-14 10:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-06 15:30 vgoyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 1/4] io controller: documentation vgoyal
2008-11-07 2:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 14:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-10 2:48 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-10 13:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 2/4] io controller: biocgroup implementation vgoyal
2008-11-07 2:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 4:19 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-11-07 14:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementation logic vgoyal
2008-11-07 3:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 14:50 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-08 2:35 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementationlogic KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-11 8:50 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementation logic Gui Jianfeng
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 4/4] io controller: Put IO controller to use in device mapper and standard make_request() function vgoyal
2008-11-06 15:49 ` [patch 0/4] [RFC] Another proportional weight IO controller Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:39 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:57 ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-06 17:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-07 0:41 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-07 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-09 9:40 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-06 17:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 23:07 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-07 14:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-07 21:36 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-10 14:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-11 19:55 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-11 22:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-12 21:20 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-13 13:49 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-13 18:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 19:15 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-13 22:27 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-13 23:10 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-14 4:58 ` Satoshi UCHIDA
2008-11-14 8:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-14 10:06 ` Satoshi UCHIDA [this message]
2008-11-06 16:47 ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-07 2:36 ` Gui Jianfeng
2008-11-07 13:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 9:05 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-13 15:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 18:41 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-13 21:46 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 22:57 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-14 16:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-14 22:44 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-17 14:23 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 2:02 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-18 5:01 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 7:42 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-18 22:23 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 12:05 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 14:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 14:41 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 19:12 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-18 19:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 21:14 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 1:52 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-11-19 10:17 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 11:06 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-20 4:45 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-11-20 6:56 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 14:30 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-19 15:52 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 23:07 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-19 14:24 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-20 0:12 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-20 8:16 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-20 13:40 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 19:54 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-20 21:15 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 22:42 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-21 15:22 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-26 6:40 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-26 15:18 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 21:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-21 3:05 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-21 14:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-21 15:21 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 22:33 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 23:44 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 7:09 ` Paolo Valente
2008-11-13 22:13 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 9:20 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-20 13:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-25 2:33 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-25 16:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-25 22:38 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-26 14:06 ` Paolo Valente
2008-11-26 19:41 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-26 22:21 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-26 11:55 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-26 12:47 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-26 16:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-27 8:43 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-28 3:09 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-28 13:33 ` Ryo Tsuruta
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