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From: "Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
To: "'Rafael J. Wysocki'" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"'Thomas Ilsche'" <thomas.ilsche@tu-dresden.de>
Cc: "'Linux PM'" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
"'Peter Zijlstra'" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"'Frederic Weisbecker'" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
"'Thomas Gleixner'" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"'Paul McKenney'" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"'Rik van Riel'" <riel@surriel.com>,
"'Aubrey Li'" <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
"'Mike Galbraith'" <mgalbraith@suse.de>,
"'LKML'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
Subject: RE: [RFT][PATCH v7 5/8] cpuidle: Return nohz hint from cpuidle_select()
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 23:24:44 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <002d01d3c1a6$7a06bc30$6e143490$@net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ym0ceyYVT1Konym0eegfln
On 2018.03.21 15:15 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 6:59 PM, Thomas Ilsche wrote:
>> On 2018-03-21 15:36, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> So please disregard this one entirely and take the v7.2 replacement
>>> instead of it:https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10299429/
>>>
>>> The current versions (including the above) is in the git branch at
>>>
>>> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git \
>>> idle-loop-v7.2
>>
>> With v7.2 (tested on SKL-SP from git) I see similar behavior in idle
>> as with v5: several cores which just keep the sched tick enabled.
>> Worse yet, some go only in C1 (not even C1E!?) despite sleeping the
>> full sched tick.
>> The resulting power consumption is ~105 W instead of ~ 70 W.
>>
>> https://wwwpub.zih.tu-dresden.de/~tilsche/powernightmares/v7_2_skl_sp_idle.png
>>
>> I have briefly ran v7 and I believe it was also affected.
>
> Then it looks like menu_select() stubbornly thinks that the idle
> duration will be within the tick boundary on those cores.
>
> That may be because the bumping up of the correction factor in
> menu_reflect() is too conservative or it may be necessary to do
> something radical to measured_us in menu_update() in case of a tick
> wakeup combined with a large next_timer_us value.
>
> For starters, please see if the attached patch (on top of the
> idle-loop-v7.2 git branch) changes this behavior in any way.
O.K. I am seeing some weirdness.
On my system with both V7.2 and V7.2 plus this patch, I observe
A spike in Idle State 1 residency every 34+ minutes. And slightly
higher average idle power than before. (I might not have done V7
idle tests long enough).
It can be seen in the frequency sweep I did earlier today, with V7.2:
http://fast.smythies.com/rjw_freq_sweep_72_combined.png
Despite the note on the graph that says it might be real, I don't think
it is (I forgot to delete the note).
With V7.2+ sometimes the event occurs at 17 minute intervals.
Here is a idle graph (for reference: we have seen idle package power
pretty steady at ~3.7 watts before).
http://fast.smythies.com/rjw_v72p_idle.png
... Doug
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-22 6:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-20 15:12 [RFT][PATCH v7 0/8] sched/cpuidle: Idle loop rework Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-20 15:13 ` [RFT][PATCH v7 1/8] time: tick-sched: Reorganize idle tick management code Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-20 15:15 ` [RFT][PATCH v7 2/8] sched: idle: Do not stop the tick upfront in the idle loop Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-20 15:15 ` [RFT][PATCH v7 3/8] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-20 18:00 ` [Correction][RFT][PATCH v7 3/8] sched: idle: Do not stop the tick before cpuidle_idle_call() Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-20 15:16 ` [RFT][PATCH v7 4/8] jiffies: Introduce USER_TICK_USEC and redefine TICK_USEC Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-20 15:45 ` [RFT][PATCH v7 5/8] cpuidle: Return nohz hint from cpuidle_select() Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-21 6:48 ` [RFT][PATCH v7.1 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-21 11:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-21 13:03 ` [RFT][PATCH v7.2 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-21 14:36 ` [RFT][PATCH v7 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-21 17:59 ` Thomas Ilsche
2018-03-21 22:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-22 13:18 ` Thomas Ilsche
2018-03-22 17:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-22 6:24 ` Doug Smythies [this message]
2018-03-22 15:41 ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-22 17:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-21 18:23 ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-22 17:40 ` [RFT][PATCH v7.3 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-28 9:14 ` Thomas Ilsche
2018-03-30 9:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-04-10 15:22 ` Thomas Ilsche
2018-03-22 20:46 ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-20 15:45 ` [RFT][PATCH v7 6/8] sched: idle: Select idle state before stopping the tick Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-27 21:50 ` Thomas Ilsche
2018-03-27 22:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-28 8:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-28 8:38 ` Thomas Ilsche
2018-03-28 10:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-28 10:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-28 15:15 ` Thomas Ilsche
2018-03-28 20:41 ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-28 23:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-20 15:46 ` [RFT][PATCH v7 7/8] cpuidle: menu: Refine idle state selection for running tick Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-20 15:47 ` [RFT][PATCH v7 8/8] cpuidle: menu: Avoid selecting shallow states with stopped tick Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-20 17:52 ` [RFT][PATCH v7 3/8] sched: idle: Do not stop the tick upfront in the idle loop Doug Smythies
2018-03-20 18:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-21 12:31 ` [RFT][PATCH v7 0/8] sched/cpuidle: Idle loop rework Rik van Riel
2018-03-21 13:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-21 14:53 ` Rik van Riel
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