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From: "Takashi Sato" <t-sato@yk.jp.nec.com>
To: "Theodore Tso" <tytso@MIT.EDU>
Cc: <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] ext3 freeze feature
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:05:12 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <004901c86925$7e3d1d60$41a8400a@bsd.tnes.nec.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080125133329.GB8184@mit.edu>

Hi,

> What you *could* do is to start putting processes to sleep if they
> attempt to write to the frozen filesystem, and then detect the
> deadlock case where the process holding the file descriptor used to
> freeze the filesystem gets frozen because it attempted to write to the
> filesystem --- at which point it gets some kind of signal (which
> defaults to killing the process), and the filesystem is unfrozen and
> as part of the unfreeze you wake up all of the processes that were put
> to sleep for touching the frozen filesystem.
> 
> The other approach would be to say, "oh well, the freeze ioctl is
> inherently dangerous, and root is allowed to himself in the foot, so
> who cares".  :-)

Currently the XFS freezer doesn't solve a deadlock automatically
and we rely on administrators for ensuring that the freezer will not
access the filesystem.
And even if the wrong freezer causes a deadlock, it can be solved
by other unfreeze process(unfreeze command).

So I don't think the freezer itself needs to solve the deadlock.
I think the timeout is effective for a unexpected deadlock
and the timeout extending feature is very useful
as Dmitri proposed.

Cheers, Takashi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-07  1:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-25 10:59 Takashi Sato
2008-01-25 11:17 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-01-25 12:42   ` Takashi Sato
2008-01-26  5:17     ` David Chinner
2008-01-26 19:10     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-25 12:18 ` Dmitri Monakhov
2008-01-25 13:33   ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-25 16:34     ` Eric Sandeen
2008-01-25 16:42       ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-02 13:52         ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-28 13:13     ` Takashi Sato
2008-02-01  3:03       ` Kazuto Miyoshi
2008-01-31  8:53     ` Daniel Phillips
2008-02-07  1:05     ` Takashi Sato [this message]
2008-02-08 10:48     ` Takashi Sato
2008-02-08 13:26       ` Andreas Dilger
2008-02-08 14:59         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-15 11:51           ` Takashi Sato
2008-02-15 14:24             ` Eric Sandeen
2008-02-19 11:27               ` t-sato
2008-02-26  8:20                 ` [RFC] ext3 freeze feature ver 0.2 Takashi Sato
2008-02-26 16:39                   ` Eric Sandeen
2008-02-26 17:08                     ` Andreas Dilger
2008-02-27  8:31                       ` Takashi Sato
2008-03-07  9:13                 ` [RFC] freeze feature ver 1.0 Takashi Sato
2008-02-16 13:25             ` [RFC] ext3 freeze feature Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-13  8:23     ` Takashi Sato
2008-01-26  5:35 ` David Chinner
2008-01-26  5:39   ` David Chinner
2008-01-28 13:07   ` Takashi Sato

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