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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>, Al Grant <Al.Grant@arm.com>,
James Clark <James.Clark@arm.com>,
tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: perf_event: Fix time_offset for arch timer
Date: Fri, 01 May 2020 16:29:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0a74ba5e82a41dca0a4156f2039e6be6@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200501151448.GA9650@leoy-ThinkPad-X240s>
On 2020-05-01 16:14, Leo Yan wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 05:18:15PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 06:04:36PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 04:29:23PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>> >
>> > > I wonder if we could/should make __sched_clock_offset available even when
>> > > CONFIG_HAVE_UNSTABLE_SCHED_CLOCK isn't defined. It feels like it would
>> > > help with this particular can or worm...
>> >
>> > Errrgh. __sched_clock_offset is only needed on x86 because we transition
>> > from one clock device to another on boot. It really shouldn't exist on
>> > anything sane.
>>
>> I think we still transition from jiffies on arm64, because we don't
>> register
>> with sched_clock until the timer driver probes. Marc, is that right?
>>
>> > Let me try and understand your particular problem better.
>>
>> I think the long and short of it is that userspace needs a way to
>> convert
>> the raw counter cycles into a ns value that can be compared against
>> values
>> coming out of sched_clock. To do this accurately, I think it needs the
>> cycles value at the point when sched_clock was initialised.
>
> Will's understanding is exactly what I want to resolve in this patch.
>
> The background info is for the ARM SPE [1] decoding with perf tool, if
> the timestamp is enabled, it uses the generic timer's counter as
> timestamp source. SPE trace data only contains the raw counter cycles,
> as Will mentioned, the perf tool needs to convert it to a coordinate
> value with sched_clock. This is why this patch tries to calculate the
> offset between the raw counter's ns value and sched_clock, eventually
> this offset value will be used by SPE's decoding code in Perf tool to
> calibrate a 'correct' timestamp.
>
> Based on your suggestions, I will use __sched_clock_offset to resolve
> the accuracy issue in patch v2. (I noticed Peter suggested to use a
> new API for wrapping clock_data structure, IIUC, __sched_clock_offset
> is more straightforward for this case).
I think Peter's point was *not* to use __sched_clock_offset which
appears to be only there for the purpose of an x86 workaround (and not
available to other architecture), but to instead expose the relevant
field (epoch_cyc) to the perf subsystem.
I feel it makes sense to make this a generic API, and see whether x86
can move over to it rather than the other way around.
Thanks,
M.
--
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-01 15:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-20 9:35 Leo Yan
2020-04-01 1:24 ` Leo Yan
2020-04-30 14:58 ` Will Deacon
2020-04-30 15:29 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-04-30 16:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-30 16:18 ` Will Deacon
2020-04-30 17:33 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-05-01 15:14 ` Leo Yan
2020-05-01 15:26 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-01 16:10 ` Leo Yan
2020-05-01 17:13 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-01 15:29 ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2020-04-30 16:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-30 16:45 ` Will Deacon
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