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From: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.20-rc6-mm3
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:46:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1170816415.3455.193.camel@dwalker1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070206235102.GC21969@elte.hu>

I guess I will respond ....

On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 00:51 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com> wrote:
> 
> > > | If we change the current "timer" entry to be listed as 
> > > | "lapic-timer" and not "IO-APIC-edge" (or one of the other names) 
> > > | and replace it with the count from LOC
> > > 
> > > this is a pretty clear sentence, i dont think i misunderstood 
> > > anything about it. If i did, please point it out specifically.
> > 
> > Geez , man I've corrected this statement already .. [...]
> 
> i'm sorry, but where did you "correct this statement already"? You 
> havent replied to your mail to correct it explicitly, and there's no 
> later statement of yours that says anything near to "let me correct this 
> via X" or "i was wrong here, i meant Y".

I know that you see corrections as responses to your own email, but it's
not universal .. Everyone has their own methodology, AFAIK it's free
form ..

> the only subsequent reference of yours seems to be:
> 
> | I'm not saying we should "fake" anything .. I'm saying list what's 
> | really happening .. In a human readable way .
> 
> what you write here does not read as a 'correction', this disputes my 
> characterisation, suggesting that your original point is still intact. 
> How should i have known that you meant this to be a 'correction' of your 
> original point, and that this (whatever it means precisely) replaces it?
> 
> if you concede a point or correct a statement then /please/ make it 
> clear. There's nothing bad about being wrong or being stupid 
> occasionally, it happens to all of us.

I don't take a literal approach to email, which you seem to be taking ..
I think your seeing this thread as an argument for or against something
and you have taken a position which you diligently stick to..

My position is not fixed. However, your arguing as if my position was
fixed. My perspective of this thread was not to argue for a specific
change, but to throw out changes and see if anything stuck ..

Where my statements were suppose to be loose to begin with, so loose as
to only spark the start of an idea, not to promote something specific.
If you read the start of the thread you'll notice that I gave Thomas two
totally opposite ideas.

"We could just remove the timer entry."
or
"[..]how about adding the interrupts to the list which are driving the
timer ?"

When I started the thread I had a similar position as Thomas, but I was
concerned that I was missing something or the code was missing
something.. This was the reason for starting the thread ..

So I'll gladly concede all points. To me it wasn't about the argument,
or even my own ideas ..

Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-07  2:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-30  4:45 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Andrew Morton
2007-01-30  4:50 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30  5:11   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Andrew Morton
2007-01-30  9:56     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-01-30  8:16 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Sunil Naidu
2007-01-30  8:32   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Andrew Morton
2007-01-30  9:06 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Olivier Galibert
2007-01-30  9:26   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Andrew Morton
2007-01-30 18:47     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Olivier Galibert
2007-01-31  7:57     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Len Brown
2007-02-01  4:25     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Len Brown
2007-01-30 22:18 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Maciej Rutecki
2007-01-30 22:27   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Andrew Morton
2007-01-31  0:55     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Karsten Wiese
2007-01-31 13:22       ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2007-01-31 14:25         ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Karsten Wiese
2007-02-01  8:01           ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 10:44             ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Karsten Wiese
2007-03-01 11:11               ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Karsten Wiese
2007-02-03  0:37             ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Pavel Machek
2007-02-01 13:03       ` [PATCH -mm] gtod persistent clock resume fix Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-31 11:54     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Maciej Rutecki
2007-02-01  4:10       ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Len Brown
2007-02-01  4:17         ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Andrew Morton
2007-01-31  1:16   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Tilman Schmidt
2007-01-31  1:25     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Andrew Morton
2007-01-31 11:38       ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Tilman Schmidt
2007-01-31 12:29         ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-01-31 16:02           ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Maciej Rutecki
2007-01-31 18:28           ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Tilman Schmidt
2007-01-31 21:52 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Mattia Dongili
2007-01-31 23:21   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Mattia Dongili
2007-02-01 19:04     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 19:36     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-01 20:01       ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-01 21:11         ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Mattia Dongili
2007-02-01 22:33           ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-02 19:18             ` dynticks + iptables almost stops the boot process [was: Re: 2.6.20-rc6-mm3] Mattia Dongili
2007-02-02 20:27               ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-02 20:43                 ` Mattia Dongili
2007-02-06 16:48                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-06 19:28                     ` Mattia Dongili
2007-02-06 23:12                       ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-02-06 23:17                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-07  1:01                           ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-07 19:33                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 21:37         ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Mattia Dongili
2007-02-01 20:24       ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Mattia Dongili
2007-02-01  0:14 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Christoph Lameter
2007-02-01  0:24   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Andrew Morton
2007-02-01  0:27     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Christoph Lameter
2007-02-01  0:36       ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Andrew Morton
2007-02-01  0:38         ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Christoph Lameter
2007-02-01  6:20         ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 David Chinner
2007-02-01  7:12           ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Andrew Morton
2007-02-01 19:01             ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Christoph Lameter
2007-02-01 19:18               ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Jens Axboe
2007-02-01 20:18                 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Christoph Lameter
2007-02-01 20:26                   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Jens Axboe
2007-02-01 23:02                     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Christoph Lameter
2007-02-05 12:02                       ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Jens Axboe
2007-02-05 12:17                         ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Jens Axboe
2007-02-05 12:56                           ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Jens Axboe
2007-02-05 18:20                             ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Christoph Lameter
2007-02-05 18:34                               ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Jens Axboe
2007-02-02  4:08                 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 David Chinner
2007-02-02  7:31                   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Jens Axboe
2007-02-01 18:24 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Cedric Le Goater
2007-02-01 19:37   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Starikovskiy, Alexey Y
2007-02-01 20:29     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Cedric Le Goater
2007-02-01 20:38       ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Cedric Le Goater
2007-02-02 14:22         ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Starikovskiy, Alexey Y
2007-02-02 14:47           ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Cedric Le Goater
2007-02-02 14:50             ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Starikovskiy, Alexey Y
2007-02-02 16:04               ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Cedric Le Goater
2007-02-03  7:30                 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Cedric Le Goater
2007-02-03  7:57                   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Starikovskiy, Alexey Y
2007-02-02 17:39 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 16:03 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 18:36   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-06 18:45     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 19:07       ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-06 19:55         ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 20:20           ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-06 20:40             ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 20:52               ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2007-02-06 20:56                 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 21:09                   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2007-02-06 21:20                     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2007-02-06 21:23                     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 21:41                       ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2007-02-06 21:54                         ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 22:08                           ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2007-02-06 22:42                             ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 22:56                               ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2007-02-06 23:04                                 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 23:14                                   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2007-02-06 23:22                                     ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 23:28                                       ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2007-02-06 23:35                                         ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 23:44                                           ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-06 23:51                                           ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2007-02-07  2:46                                             ` Daniel Walker [this message]
2007-02-06 23:36                                       ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-07  1:12                                         ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-07 14:53                                           ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-06 23:37                                       ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2007-02-06 22:13                           ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-06 21:43                       ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-06 21:59                         ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 21:17               ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-06 21:25                 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 23:15               ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Rob Landley
2007-02-06 23:28                 ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Daniel Walker
2007-02-06 23:55                   ` 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 Rob Landley
2007-02-06 22:11 ` [-mm patch] #ifdef ACPI_FUTURE_USAGE acpi_os_readable() Adrian Bunk
2007-02-06 22:12 ` [RFC: -mm patch] drivers/net/atl1/: possible cleanups Adrian Bunk
2007-02-07  0:19   ` Jay Cliburn
2007-02-07  0:22     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-02-07  0:24       ` J. K. Cliburn
2007-02-07  0:24     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-02-06 22:12 ` [-mm patch] drivers/scsi/aacraid/: cleanups Adrian Bunk
2007-02-06 22:12 ` [-mm patch] make gfs2_writepages() static Adrian Bunk
2007-02-07 10:50   ` Steven Whitehouse

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