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From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Cc: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
"Ananiev, Leonid I" <leonid.i.ananiev@intel.com>,
Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>,
linux-aio@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Suparna bhattacharya <suparna@in.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] aio: propogate post-EIOCBQUEUED errors to completion event
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:29:48 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1171988988.6271.26.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070220160854.GO6133@think.oraclecorp.com>
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 11:08 -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 11:01:50AM -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 19:21 -0500, Benjamin LaHaise wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 04:50:48PM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
> > > > aio is not responsible for this particular synchronization. Those fixes
> > > > (if we make them) should come from other places. The patch is important
> > > > to get aio error handling right.
> > > >
> > > > I would argue that one common cause of the EIO is userland
> > > > error (mmap concurrent with O_DIRECT), and EIO is the correct answer.
> > >
> > > I disagree. That means that using the pagecache to synchronize things like
> > > the proposed online defragmentation will occasionally make O_DIRECT users
> > > fail. O_DIRECT doesn't prevent the sysadmin from copying files or other
> > > page cache uses, which implies that generating an error in these cases is
> > > horrifically broken. If only root could do it, I wouldn't complain, but
> > > this would seem to imply that user vs root holes still exist.
> >
> > We don't try to resolve "conflicting" writes between ordinary mmap() and
> > write(), so why should we be doing it for mmap and O_DIRECT?
> >
> > mmap() is designed to violate the ordinary mutex locks for write(), so
> > if a conflict arises, whether it be with O_DIRECT or ordinary writes
> > then it is a case of "last writer wins".
>
> There are some strange O_DIRECT corner cases in here such that the 'last
> writer' may actually be a 'last reader' and winning can mean have a copy
> of the page in page cache older than the copy on disk.
As long as it is marked dirty so that it eventually gets synced to disk,
it shouldn't matter.
> One option is to have invalidate_inode_pages2_range continue if it can't
> toss a page but still return something that O_DIRECT ignores (living
> with the race), but it looks like I can make a launder_page op that does
> the right thing. I'll give it a shot.
I already sent in a patch to do that last week.
Cheers
Trond
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-20 16:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-19 20:35 Zach Brown
2007-02-19 20:47 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-02-19 21:07 ` Zach Brown
2007-02-19 20:58 ` Ananiev, Leonid I
2007-02-19 21:50 ` Chris Mason
2007-02-20 0:21 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-02-20 0:26 ` Zach Brown
2007-02-20 0:28 ` Chris Mason
2007-02-20 16:01 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-02-20 16:06 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-02-20 16:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-20 16:19 ` Chris Mason
2007-02-20 16:08 ` Chris Mason
2007-02-20 16:29 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2007-02-20 16:38 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-02-20 18:40 ` Zach Brown
2007-02-21 0:05 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-02-20 14:08 ` Ananiev, Leonid I
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