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From: James Bottomley <>
To: Robert Hancock <>
Cc: Alexander <>,, ide <>,
	Jeff Garzik <>, Tejun Heo <>
Subject: Re: PROBLEM REMAINS: [sata_nv ADMA breaks ATAPI] Crash	on	accessing DVD-RAM
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:12:43 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1200193963.3656.90.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <>

On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 19:38 -0600, Robert Hancock wrote:
> James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 17:04 -0600, Robert Hancock wrote:
> >> I don't think the problem is that there's some buffer which is getting 
> >> allocated above 4GB and never bounced, since the problem goes away if 
> >> ADMA is disabled entirely and the DMA mask remains 32-bit always. My 
> >> guess is something is basing its decision on whether to bounce or not on 
> >> the device DMA mask. That can't possibly work properly for sata_nv since 
> >> the same PCI device has 2 ports, one of which can be in ADMA mode and 
> >> 64-bit capable and the other can be in legacy mode and only 32-bit capable.
> > 
> > Erm, well, you can't decouple them.  Having a differing blk queue bounce
> > mask and device mask is going to cause huge trouble.  The reason is this
> > insidious nasty called swiotlb.  Basically, with it enabled (and again,
> > it can be on ia64 or x86_64), the kernel can bypass the bounce limit
> > safe in the knowledge that swiotlb will fix up behind in the dma_map_
> > Unfortunately, if the device mask doesn't match the queue mask then
> > swiotlb will never kick in and you'll end up with mapped pages beyond
> > the 4GB limit.
> Yuck.. All the IOMMU DMA mapping code checks against the device DMA 
> mask, so it looks like if we get to the point of doing the DMA mapping 
> on >4GB addresses in libata we're screwed with this approach.
> The key problem is that both ata_ports share the same struct device with 
> one DMA mask which really doesn't match what this controller wants. I 
> wonder if we could do a different struct device for each port?
> Other than that, I guess the solutions would be to just set a 32-bit 
> mask on the device if either port has an ATAPI device connected (which 
> is fairly ugly, considering that you could do things like hotplug an 
> ATAPI device when the other port was in use, for example), or do 
> something to prevent requests from reaching this point with >4GB 
> addresses in the first place..

Well ... assuming this is the problem (and perhaps we'd better get the
traces to confirm) there are at least three possible solutions:

     1. As you say, just take the pci device mask down to 32 bits.
     2. Find the problematic allocations and add GFP_DMA32
     3. set the mask on the actual SCSI device rather than the PCI
        device and pass that into dma_map_ (this approach would have to
        get signoff from the arch people; I know it will work on parisc
        and x86 but I'm not sure about any other arch).
> >> Tejun, I believe you had a patch that was printing warnings when libata 
> >> tried to program a legacy PRD with an address over 4GB. Could we change 
> >> that to WARN_ON and get someone experiencing this to try it and
> >> see what the stack trace points to?
> > 
> > Unfortunately, the stack trace probably won't help, since the command
> > likely gets issued from the block request function, so the trace won't
> > go back to the culpable initiator; that's why the command would be
> > helpful.
> Well, dumping the ATA command surely isn't helpful, as I'm sure it will 
> be PACKET. I guess we'd have to dump out the actual CDB..

Sorry, when a SCSI person says dump the command, they mean the CDB.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-13  3:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <>
2008-01-11  5:46 ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-12  8:25   ` Alexander
2008-01-12 19:25     ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-12 20:35       ` James Bottomley
2008-01-12 23:04         ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-12 23:27           ` James Bottomley
2008-01-13  1:38             ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-13  3:12               ` James Bottomley [this message]
2008-01-13 13:33               ` Alan Cox
2008-01-13 15:38                 ` James Bottomley
2008-01-13 16:29                   ` Alan Cox
2008-01-13 16:51                     ` James Bottomley
2008-01-15  1:41                       ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-15  2:23                         ` James Bottomley
2008-02-01  0:09 ` Robert Hancock
2008-02-01  9:59   ` Alexander
2008-02-04  8:29   ` Alexander
2008-01-10 13:44 Alexander

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