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From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Scheduler(?) regression from 2.6.22 to 2.6.24 for short-lived threads
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:58:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1202759926.4165.31.camel@homer.simson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080211172648.GA7962@lixom.net>


On Mon, 2008-02-11 at 11:26 -0600, Olof Johansson wrote: 
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 09:15:55AM +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > Piddling around with your testcase, it still looks to me like things
> > improved considerably in latest greatest git.  Hopefully that means
> > happiness is in the pipe for the real workload... synthetic load is
> > definitely happier here as burst is shortened.
> 
> The real workload doesn't see much of an improvement. The changes I did
> when tinkering yesterday seem like they're better at modelling just
> what's going on with that one.

So the real application is trying to yield?  If so, you could try
prodding /proc/sys/kernel/sched_compat_yield.

It shouldn't matter if you yield or not really, that should reduce the
number of non-work spin cycles wasted awaiting preemption as threads
execute in series (the problem), and should improve your performance
numbers, but not beyond single threaded.

If I plugged a yield into the busy wait, I would expect to see a large
behavioral difference due to yield implementation changes, but that
would only be a symptom in this case, no?  Yield should be a noop.

	-Mike


  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-11 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-09  0:04 Scheduler(?) regression from 2.6.22 to 2.6.24 for short-lived threads Olof Johansson
2008-02-09  0:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-09  0:32   ` Olof Johansson
2008-02-09  7:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-09  8:03   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-09 10:58     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-09 11:40       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-09 13:37         ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-09 16:19           ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-09 17:33             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-10  5:29             ` Olof Johansson
2008-02-10  6:15               ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-10  7:00                 ` Olof Johansson
2008-02-10  7:58                   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-11  8:15                   ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-11 17:26                     ` Olof Johansson
2008-02-11 19:58                       ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2008-02-11 20:31                         ` Olof Johansson
2008-02-12  9:23                           ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-13  5:49                             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-11 21:45               ` Bill Davidsen
2008-02-12  4:30                 ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found] <fa.6N2dhyJ1cmBqiuFKgCaYfwduM+0@ifi.uio.no>
2008-02-09  1:49 ` Robert Hancock

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