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From: Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com>,
	Roel Kluin <12o3l@tiscali.nl>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	cbe-oss-dev@ozlabs.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Fix Unlikely(x) == y
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:46:03 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1203371163.6844.2.camel@concordia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080218141340.GB667@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi>

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On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 16:13 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 03:01:35PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > 
> > > This means it generates faster code with a current gcc for your platform.
> > > 
> > > But a future gcc might e.g. replace the whole loop with a division
> > > (gcc SVN head (that will soon become gcc 4.3) already does 
> > > transformations like replacing loops with divisions [1]).
> > 
> > Hence shouldn't we ask the gcc people what's the purpose of __builtin_expect(),
> > if it doesn't live up to its promise?
> 
> That's a different issue.
> 
> My point here is that we do not know how the latest gcc available in the 
> year 2010 might transform this code, and how a likely/unlikely placed 
> there might influence gcc's optimizations then.

You're right, we don't know. But if giving the compiler _more_
information causes it to produce vastly inferior code then we should be
filing gcc bugs. After all the unlikely/likely is just a hint, if gcc
knows better it can always ignore it.

cheers

-- 
Michael Ellerman
OzLabs, IBM Australia Development Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-18 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-16 16:08 Roel Kluin
2008-02-16 17:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-16 17:33   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-16 17:42     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-16 17:58       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-16 18:29         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-17  9:45         ` [Cbe-oss-dev] " Andrew Pinski
2008-02-17 10:08           ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-16 18:31       ` Geoff Levand
2008-02-16 18:39         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-17 11:50           ` Michael Ellerman
2008-02-18 13:56             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-18 14:01               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-02-18 14:13                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-18 21:46                   ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2008-02-19  7:43                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-18 19:22                 ` [Cbe-oss-dev] " Andrew Pinski
2008-02-18 14:27               ` David Howells
2008-02-18 14:59                 ` Roel Kluin
2008-02-18 18:11                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-02-18 18:33                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-18 14:39       ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-19  2:33         ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19  2:40           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-19  4:41             ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19  5:58           ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-19  6:20             ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19  9:28             ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-20  7:32               ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-19  9:25           ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-19  9:46             ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19  9:57               ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-19 22:25                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-16 18:41 ` Geoff Levand

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