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From: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>
To: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jason.low2@hp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] locking/rwsem: Avoid deceiving lock spinners
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 13:04:32 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1422997472.2368.10.camel@j-VirtualBox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1422992616.9530.78.camel@schen9-desk2.jf.intel.com>
On Tue, 2015-02-03 at 11:43 -0800, Tim Chen wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-02-03 at 09:54 -0800, Jason Low wrote:
> > On Tue, 2015-02-03 at 09:16 -0800, Tim Chen wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > + if (READ_ONCE(sem->owner))
> > > > > > + return true; /* new owner, continue spinning */
> > > > > > +
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you have some comparison data of whether it is more advantageous
> > > > > to continue spinning when owner changes? After the above change,
> > > > > rwsem will behave more like a spin lock for write lock and
> > > > > will keep spinning when the lock changes ownership.
> > > >
> > > > But recall we still abort when need_resched, so the spinning isn't
> > > > infinite. Never has been.
> > > >
> > > > > Now during heavy
> > > > > lock contention, if we don't continue spinning and sleep, we may use the
> > > > > clock cycles for actually running other threads.
> > > >
> > > > Under heavy contention, time spinning will force us to ultimately block
> > > > anyway.
> > >
> > > The question is under heavy contention, if we are going to block anyway,
> > > won't it be more advantageous not to continue spinning so we can use
> > > the cycles for useful task?
> >
> > Hi Tim,
> >
> > Now that we have the OSQ logic, under heavy contention, there will still
> > only be 1 thread that is spinning on owner at a time.
>
> That's true. We cannot have the lock grabbed by a new write
> contender as any new writer contender of the lock will be
> queued by the OSQ logic. Only the
> thread doing the optimistic spin is attempting write lock.
> In other word, switching of write owner of the rwsem to a new
> owner cannot happen.
Another thread can still obtain the write lock in the fast path though
right? We try to obtain the write lock once before calling
rwsem_down_write_failed().
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-03 21:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-30 9:14 [PATCH -tip v2 0/5] rwsem: Fine tuning Davidlohr Bueso
2015-01-30 9:14 ` [PATCH 1/5] locking/rwsem: Use task->state helpers Davidlohr Bueso
2015-01-30 9:14 ` [PATCH 2/5] locking/rwsem: Document barrier need when waking tasks Davidlohr Bueso
2015-02-18 17:11 ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Davidlohr Bueso
2015-01-30 9:14 ` [PATCH 3/5] locking/rwsem: Set lock ownership ASAP Davidlohr Bueso
2015-02-18 17:11 ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Davidlohr Bueso
2015-01-30 9:14 ` [PATCH 4/5] locking/rwsem: Avoid deceiving lock spinners Davidlohr Bueso
2015-01-31 1:51 ` Tim Chen
2015-01-31 2:28 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-02-03 17:16 ` Tim Chen
2015-02-03 17:54 ` Jason Low
2015-02-03 19:43 ` Tim Chen
2015-02-03 21:04 ` Jason Low [this message]
2015-02-03 21:48 ` Tim Chen
2015-02-04 12:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-04 17:39 ` Tim Chen
2015-01-31 9:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-31 21:14 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-01-31 21:17 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-02-18 17:12 ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Davidlohr Bueso
2015-01-30 9:14 ` [PATCH 5/5] locking/rwsem: Check for active lock before bailing on spinning Davidlohr Bueso
2015-02-18 17:12 ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Davidlohr Bueso
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