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From: Yann Droneaud <ydroneaud@opteya.com>
To: Shachar Raindel <raindel@mellanox.com>
Cc: Haggai Eran <haggaie@mellanox.com>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagig@mellanox.com>,
	"oss-security@lists.openwall.com"
	<oss-security@lists.openwall.com>,
	"<linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org> (linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org)" 
	<linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: CVE-2014-8159 kernel: infiniband: uverbs: unprotected physical memory access
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 22:40:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1428007208.22575.104.camel@opteya.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM2PR05MB0929FB71C5A4DE92A7709F92DCF20@AM2PR05MB0929.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Hi,

Le jeudi 02 avril 2015 à 16:44 +0000, Shachar Raindel a écrit :
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yann Droneaud [mailto:ydroneaud@opteya.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 7:35 PM

> > Another related question: as the large memory range could be registered
> > by user space with ibv_reg_mr(pd, base, size, IB_ACCESS_ON_DEMAND),
> > what's prevent the kernel to map a file as the result of mmap(0, ...)
> > in this  region, making it available remotely through IBV_WR_RDMA_READ /
> > IBV_WR_RDMA_WRITE ?
> > 
> 
> This is not a bug. This is a feature.
> 
> Exposing a file through RDMA, using ODP, can be done exactly like this.
> Given that the application explicitly requested this behavior, I don't
> see why it is a problem. 

If the application cannot choose what will end up in the region it has
registered, it's an issue !

What might happen if one library in a program call mmap(0, size, ...) to
load a file storing a secret (a private key), and that file ends up 
being mapped in an registered but otherwise free region (afaict, the 
kernel is allowed to do it) ?
What might happen if one library in a program call call mmap(0, 
size, ..., MAP_ANONYMOUS,...) to allocate memory, call mlock(), then
write in this location a secret (a passphrase), and that area ends up
in the memory region registered for on demand paging ?

The application haven't choose to disclose these confidential piece of 
information, but they are available for reading/writing by remote
through RDMA given it knows the rkey of the memory region (which is a 
32bits value).

I hope I'm missing something, because I'm not feeling confident such
behavor is a feature.


> Actually, some of our tests use such flows.
> The mmu notifiers mechanism allow us to do this safely. When the page is
> written back to disk, it is removed from the ODP mapping. When it is
> accessed by the HCA, it is brought back to RAM.
> 

I'm not discussing about the benefit of On Demand Paging and why it's a
very good feature to expose files through RDMA.

I'm trying to understand how the application can choose what is exposed
through RDMA if it registers a very large memory region for later use 
(but do not actually explicitly map something there yet): what's the
consequences ?

   void *start = sbrk(0);
   size_t size = ULONG_MAX - (unsigned long)start;

   ibv_reg_mr(pd, start, size, IB_ACCESS_ON_DEMAND)


Regards.

-- 
Yann Droneaud
OPTEYA



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-02 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <AM3PR05MB0935AABF569F15EA846B8E72DC000@AM3PR05MB0935.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
2015-04-02 10:04 ` Yann Droneaud
2015-04-02 10:52   ` Shachar Raindel
2015-04-02 13:30     ` Yann Droneaud
2015-04-02 15:18       ` Haggai Eran
2015-04-02 16:35         ` Yann Droneaud
2015-04-02 16:44           ` Shachar Raindel
2015-04-02 18:12             ` Haggai Eran
2015-04-13 13:29               ` Yann Droneaud
2015-04-14  8:11                 ` Haggai Eran
2015-04-02 20:40             ` Yann Droneaud [this message]
2015-04-03  8:39               ` Haggai Eran
2015-04-03 11:49                 ` Yann Droneaud
2015-04-02 15:15     ` Yann Droneaud
2015-04-02 16:34       ` Shachar Raindel
2015-04-08 12:19         ` Yann Droneaud
2015-04-08 12:44           ` Yann Droneaud

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