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From: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jaewon Kim <jaewon31.kim@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	Jaewon Kim <jaewon31.kim@samsung.com>,
	m.szyprowski@samsung.com, ytk.lee@samsung.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] usb: host: xhci: allow __GFP_FS in dma allocation
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 15:11:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1558444291.12672.23.camel@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1905201011490.1498-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Mo, 2019-05-20 at 10:16 -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2019, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> 
> > GFP_KERNEL if you can block, GFP_ATOMIC if you can't for a good reason,
> > that is the allocation is from irq context or under a spinlock.  If you
> > think you have a case where you think you don't want to block, but it
> > is not because of the above reasons we need to have a chat about the
> > details.
> 
> What if the allocation requires the kernel to swap some old pages out 
> to the backing store, but the backing store is on the device that the 
> driver is managing?  The swap can't take place until the current I/O 
> operation is complete (assuming the driver can handle only one I/O 
> operation at a time), and the current operation can't complete until 
> the old pages are swapped out.  Result: deadlock.
> 
> Isn't that the whole reason for using GFP_NOIO in the first place?

Hi,

lookig at this it seems to me that we are in danger of a deadlock

- during reset - devices cannot do IO while being reset
	covered by the USB layer in usb_reset_device
- resume & restore - devices cannot do IO while suspended
	covered by driver core in rpm_callback
- disconnect - a disconnected device cannot do IO
	is this a theoretical case or should I do something to
	the driver core?

How about changing configurations on USB?

	Regards
		Oliver


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-05-21 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-17 16:02 Jaewon Kim
2019-05-17 16:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-05-18  1:53   ` Jaewon Kim
2019-05-20  5:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-05-20  9:09   ` Oliver Neukum
2019-05-20 10:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-05-20 14:16       ` Alan Stern
2019-05-20 14:23         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-05-21  8:54           ` Oliver Neukum
2019-05-21 13:27             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-05-21 13:11         ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2019-05-21 14:00           ` Alan Stern
2019-05-22  6:31             ` Oliver Neukum
2019-05-22 14:56               ` Alan Stern
2019-05-22 20:47                 ` Oliver Neukum
2019-05-23 14:01                   ` Alan Stern
2019-05-28 12:34                     ` Oliver Neukum
2019-05-28 14:25                       ` Alan Stern
2019-05-23 12:32   ` Oliver Neukum
2019-05-23 16:35     ` Christoph Hellwig

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