From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263366AbUERUAN (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 May 2004 16:00:13 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263389AbUERUAN (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 May 2004 16:00:13 -0400 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:42699 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263366AbUERUAI (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 May 2004 16:00:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 21:00:07 +0100 From: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk To: Mark Gross Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Tim Bird , linux kernel Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: CE Linux Forum - Specification V1.0 draft Message-ID: <20040518200007.GF17014@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> References: <40A90D00.7000005@am.sony.com> <200405171342.49891.mgross@linux.intel.com> <20040518074854.A7348@infradead.org> <200405181232.48226.mgross@linux.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200405181232.48226.mgross@linux.intel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 12:32:48PM -0700, Mark Gross wrote: > These are some of the types of problems engineers at REAL software shops have > to solve to be able to ship REAL product for REAL money. If you haven't HAD > to produce code like this yourself at some point in your carrier then you've > lived a sheltered life. > > Its disingenuous for you to get on your ivory tower to point and laugh. Well, you see, after spending years cleaning up the excrements of self-styled "REAL engineers" it's either get on the tower to point and laugh or get on the tower to point and shoot.