From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264588AbUESV5g (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 May 2004 17:57:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264600AbUESV5g (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 May 2004 17:57:36 -0400 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk ([212.18.232.186]:9736 "EHLO caramon.arm.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264588AbUESV5f (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 May 2004 17:57:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 22:57:29 +0100 From: Russell King To: Tim Bird Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Mark Gross , linux kernel Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: CE Linux Forum - Specification V1.0 draft Message-ID: <20040519225729.A28893@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Tim Bird , Christoph Hellwig , Mark Gross , linux kernel References: <40A90D00.7000005@am.sony.com> <20040517201910.A1932@infradead.org> <200405171342.49891.mgross@linux.intel.com> <20040518074854.A7348@infradead.org> <40ABB5E2.3040908@am.sony.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <40ABB5E2.3040908@am.sony.com>; from tim.bird@am.sony.com on Wed, May 19, 2004 at 12:30:42PM -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 12:30:42PM -0700, Tim Bird wrote: > The non-normative section of this spec. explains where this was > a problem in 2.4, and why it is desirable, from the standpoint of > bootup time reduction, to avoid these busywaits. In this case, it's really a bug that IDE is using a busy wait where it should be using a sleeping wait. It's a bug, plain and simple. To wrap the bug into "a spec" somehow seems wrong to me, especially when it would be far better to report the problem as a bug. Sure, specs make suit-wearing people happy, but that doesn't mean that they're appropriate as a bug reporting method. 8) -- Russell King Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ maintainer of: 2.6 PCMCIA - http://pcmcia.arm.linux.org.uk/ 2.6 Serial core