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From: Jan Kara <>
To: Andrew Morton <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix commit of ordered data buffers
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:03:22 +0200	[thread overview]
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> Jan Kara <> wrote:
> >
> > When a buffer is locked it does not mean that write-out is in progress. We
> >  have to check if the buffer is dirty and if it is we have to submit it
> >  for write-out. We unconditionally move the buffer to t_locked_list so
> >  that we don't mistake unprocessed buffer and buffer not yet given to
> >  ll_rw_block(). This subtly changes the meaning of buffer states in
> >  t_locked_list - unlock buffer (for list users different from
> >  journal_commit_transaction()) does not mean it has been written. But
> >  only journal_unmap_buffer() cares and it now checks if the buffer
> >  is not dirty.
> Seems complex.  It means that t_locked_list takes on an additional (and
> undocumented!) meaning.
  Sorry, if we agree on some final form I'll add the appropriate
comment to the header file.

> Also, I don't think it works.  See ll_rw_block()'s handling of
> already-locked buffers..
  We send it to disk with SWRITE - hence ll_rw_block() wait for the buffer
lock for us. Or do you have something else in mind?

> An alternative is to just lock the buffer in journal_commit_transaction(),
> if it was locked-and-dirty.  And remove the call to ll_rw_block() and
> submit the locked buffers by hand.
  Yes, this has the advantage that we can move the buffer to t_locked_list
in the right time and so we don't change the semantics of t_locked_list.
OTOH the locking will be a bit more complicated (we'd need to acquire and
drop j_list_lock almost for every bh while currently we do it only once
per batch) - the code would have to be like:

while (commit_transaction->t_sync_datalist) {
	jh = commit_transaction->t_sync_datalist;
	bh = jh2bh(jh);
	if (buffer_dirty(bh)) {
		if (buffer_dirty(bh))
			/* submit the buffer */
		/* Check that somebody did not move the jh elsewhere */
	else {
		if (!inverted_lock(journal, bh))
			goto write_out_data;
	__journal_file_buffer(jh, commit_transaction, BJ_Locked);

If you prefer something like this I can code it up...

> That would mean that if someone had redirtied a buffer which was on
> t_sync_datalist *while* it was under writeout, we'd end up waiting on that
> writeout to complete before submitting more I/O.  But I suspect that's
> pretty rare.
> One thing which concerns me with your approach is livelocks: if some process
> sits in a tight loop writing to the same part of the same file, will it
> cause kjournald to get stuck?
  No, because as soon as we find the buffer in t_sync_datalist we move
it to t_locked_list and submit it for IO - this case is one reason why I
introduced that new meaning to t_locked_list.

> The problem we have here is "was the buffer dirtied before this commit
> started, or after?".  In the former case we are obliged to write it.  In
> the later case we are not, and in trying to do this we risk livelocking.

Jan Kara <>
SuSE CR Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-14 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-13 15:30 Jan Kara
2005-09-14  1:43 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14 12:03   ` Jan Kara [this message]
2005-09-14 18:30     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-15  7:23       ` Jan Kara
2005-09-14 13:02   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2006-09-11 21:05 Jan Kara
2006-09-11 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-28  8:31 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-28 21:35   ` Jan Kara
2006-09-29  1:27     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-29  9:21       ` Jan Kara

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