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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
Cc: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@gmail.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Chase Venters <chase.venters@clientec.com>,
Johann Borck <johann.borck@densedata.com>
Subject: Re: [take19 1/4] kevent: Core files.
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 14:09:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200610051409.31826.dada1@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061005105536.GA4838@2ka.mipt.ru>
On Thursday 05 October 2006 12:55, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 12:45:03PM +0200, Eric Dumazet (dada1@cosmosbay.com)
> >
> > What is missing or not obvious is : If events are skipped because of
> > overflows, What happens ? Connections stuck forever ? Hope that
> > everything will restore itself ? Is kernel able to SIGNAL this problem to
> > user land ?
>
> Exisitng code does not overflow by design, but can consume a lot of
> memory. I talked about the case, when there will be some limit on
> number of entries put into mapped buffer.
You still dont answer my question. Please answer the question.
Recap : You have a max of XXXX events queued. A network message come and
kernel want to add another event. It cannot because limit is reached. How the
User Program knows that this problem was hit ?
> It is the same.
> What if reing buffer was grown upto 3 entry, and is now empty, and we
> need to put there 4 entries? Grow it again?
> It can be done, easily, but it looks like a workaround not as solution.
> And it is highly unlikely that in situation, when there are a lot of
> event, ring can be empty.
I dont speak of re-allocation of ring buffer. I dont care to allocate at
startup a big enough buffer.
Say you have allocated a ring buffer of 1024*1024 entries.
Then you queue 100 events per second, and dequeue them immediatly.
No need to blindly use all 1024*1024 slots in the ring buffer, doing
index = (index+1)%(1024*1024)
> epoll() does not have mmap.
> Problem is not about how many events can be put into the kernel, but how
> many of them can be put into mapped buffer.
> There is no problem if mmap is turned off.
So zap mmap() support completely, since it is not usable at all. We wont
discuss on it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-05 12:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2006-09-12 8:41 ` [take18 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-12 8:41 ` [take18 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-12 8:41 ` [take18 2/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-12 8:41 ` [take18 3/4] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-12 8:41 ` [take18 4/4] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-20 9:35 ` [take19 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-20 9:35 ` [take19 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-20 9:35 ` [take19 2/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-20 9:35 ` [take19 3/4] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-20 9:35 ` [take19 4/4] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-04 6:34 ` [take19 1/4] kevent: Core files Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-04 6:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-04 17:57 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-05 8:57 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-05 9:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-05 10:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-05 10:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-05 10:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-05 12:09 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2006-10-05 12:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-15 23:22 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-16 7:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-16 10:16 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-16 11:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 5:10 ` Johann Borck
2006-10-17 5:59 ` Chase Venters
2006-10-17 10:42 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 13:12 ` Chase Venters
2006-10-17 13:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 10:39 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 13:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-17 13:42 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 13:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-17 14:07 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 14:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-17 15:09 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 15:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-17 16:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 16:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-17 16:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 16:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-18 4:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-18 4:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-17 15:33 ` Hans Henrik Happe
2006-10-05 14:01 ` Hans Henrik Happe
2006-10-05 14:15 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-05 15:07 ` Hans Henrik Happe
2006-09-22 19:22 ` [take19 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Andrew Morton
2006-09-23 4:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-04 6:09 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-04 6:10 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-04 6:27 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-04 6:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-26 15:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-09-27 4:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-27 15:09 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-04 4:50 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-04 4:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-04 7:33 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-04 7:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-04 17:20 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-05 9:02 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-05 14:45 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-06 8:36 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-15 22:43 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-16 7:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-16 9:59 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-16 10:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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