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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
Cc: Johann Borck <johann.borck@densedata.com>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@gmail.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Chase Venters <chase.venters@clientec.com>
Subject: Re: [take19 1/4] kevent: Core files.
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:19:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200610171519.37051.dada1@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061017103940.GA19246@2ka.mipt.ru>
On Tuesday 17 October 2006 12:39, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> I can add such notification, but its existense _is_ the broken design.
> After such condition happend, all new events will dissapear (although
> they are still accessible through usual queue) from mapped buffer.
>
> While writing this I have come to the idea on how to imrove the case of
> the size of mapped buffer - we can make it with limited size, and when
> it is full, some bit will be set in the shared area and obviously no new
> events can be added there, but when user commits some events from that
> buffer (i.e. says to kernel that appropriate kevents can be freed or
> requeued according to theirs flags), new ready events from ready queue
> can be copied into mapped buffer.
>
> It still does not solve (and I do insist that it is broken behaviour)
> the case when kernel is going to generate infinite number of events for
> one requested by userspace (as in case of generating new 'data_has_arrived'
> event when new byte has been received).
Behavior is not broken. It's quite usefull and works 99.9999% of time.
I was trying to suggest you but you missed my point.
You dont want to use a bit, but a full sequence counter, 32bits.
A program may handle XXX.XXX handles, but use a 4096 entries ring
buffer 'only'.
The user program keeps a local copy of a special word
named 'ring_buffer_full_counter'
Each time the kernel cannot queue an event in the ring buffer, it increase
the "ring_buffer_was_full_counter" (exported to user app in the mmap view)
When the user application notice the kernel
changed "ring_buffer_was_full_counter" it does a full scan of all file
handles (preferably using poll() to get all relevant info in one syscall) :
do {
if (read_event_from_mmap()) {handle_event(fd); continue;}
/* ring buffer is empty, check if we missed some events */
if (unlikely(mmap->ring_buffer_full_counter !=
my_ring_buffer_full_counter)) {
my_ring_buffer_full_counter = mmap->ring_buffer_full_counter;
/* slow PATH */
/* can use a big poll() for example, or just a loop without poll() */
for_all_file_desc_do() {
check if some event/data is waiting on THIS fd
}
/*
}
else syscall_wait_for_one_available_kevent(queue)
}
This is how a program can recover. If ring buffer has a reasonable size, this
kind of event should not happen very frequently. If it does (because events
continue to fill ring_buffer during recovery and might hit FULL again), maybe
a smart program is able to resize the ring_buffer, and start using it after
yet another recovery pass.
If not, we dont care, because a big poll() give us many ready file-descriptors
in one syscall, and maybe this is much better than kevent/epoll when XX.XXX
events are ready.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-17 13:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2006-09-12 8:41 ` [take18 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-12 8:41 ` [take18 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-12 8:41 ` [take18 2/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-12 8:41 ` [take18 3/4] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-12 8:41 ` [take18 4/4] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-20 9:35 ` [take19 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-20 9:35 ` [take19 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-20 9:35 ` [take19 2/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-20 9:35 ` [take19 3/4] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-20 9:35 ` [take19 4/4] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-04 6:34 ` [take19 1/4] kevent: Core files Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-04 6:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-04 17:57 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-05 8:57 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-05 9:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-05 10:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-05 10:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-05 10:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-05 12:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-05 12:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-15 23:22 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-16 7:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-16 10:16 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-16 11:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 5:10 ` Johann Borck
2006-10-17 5:59 ` Chase Venters
2006-10-17 10:42 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 13:12 ` Chase Venters
2006-10-17 13:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 10:39 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 13:19 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2006-10-17 13:42 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 13:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-17 14:07 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 14:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-17 15:09 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 15:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-17 16:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 16:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-17 16:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-17 16:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-18 4:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-18 4:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-17 15:33 ` Hans Henrik Happe
2006-10-05 14:01 ` Hans Henrik Happe
2006-10-05 14:15 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-05 15:07 ` Hans Henrik Happe
2006-09-22 19:22 ` [take19 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Andrew Morton
2006-09-23 4:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-04 6:09 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-04 6:10 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-04 6:27 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-04 6:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-26 15:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-09-27 4:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-09-27 15:09 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-04 4:50 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-04 4:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-04 7:33 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-04 7:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-04 17:20 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-05 9:02 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-05 14:45 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-06 8:36 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-15 22:43 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-16 7:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-16 9:59 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-16 10:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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