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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: "Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz" <gryzman@gmail.com>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Johannes Stezenbach <js@linuxtv.org>,
Joe Barr <joe@pjprimer.com>,
Linux Kernel mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Serial port blues
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:52:18 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070121185218.GD27422@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2f4958ff0701210710r743c1821n9af23a050c847a7@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 04:10:58PM +0100, Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz wrote:
> you're right, I used wrong term to describe.
> But the problem still exists. Nowadays it should be possible to run many
> serial ports fully accurate "at the same time". It is also true that the
> same problem exists in windows, and bsd worlds. So it is not only Linux
> problem.
It's not so much a "problem", but rather, most people aren't
particularly interested in using the millions and millions of
transisters of a modern CPU to generate a square wave. So OS's aren't
optimized to do that. Linux has no problems running many serial
ports; but in their normal designed function, which is to send and
receive characters, using the UART's FIFO's and interrupts to do so.
The question of manually toggling DTR/CTS RS-232 lines to generate a
tone is something that you *can* do, but you won't be doing anything
else --- and that's simply because fundamentally that's a very silly
thing to do. Most people will use a tiny amount of dedicated hardware
--- like the sound care that is built into every single modern PC ---
rather than manually waggling the RS-232 lines in order to generate a
tone.
> Like I said previously, 30$ board (usb+avr+max232) would do it accurately +
> over 300$ PC to control it :D funny...
You *can* do it, and we've described how to do it. It won't be
efficient (you won't be doing much else), but that's because a PC and
Linux is optimized for different set of tasks. Sometimes dedicated
hardware is the far superior option to a general purpose OS and a
general-purpose hardware. This should not at all be surprising.
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-21 18:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-19 21:37 Joe Barr
2007-01-20 17:36 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-01-21 5:54 ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-21 7:05 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-01-21 14:04 ` Johannes Stezenbach
[not found] ` <2f4958ff0701210650w4fa0138di6a5026de8a0823dc@mail.gmail.com>
2007-01-21 14:58 ` Willy Tarreau
[not found] ` <2f4958ff0701210710r743c1821n9af23a050c847a7@mail.gmail.com>
2007-01-21 18:52 ` Theodore Tso [this message]
[not found] ` <2f4958ff0701211105p4f7e3e86x8aaf14566112bc51@mail.gmail.com>
2007-01-21 19:30 ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-21 18:55 ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-21 5:09 ` Stuart MacDonald
2007-01-21 7:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-01-21 7:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-01-21 20:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-01-22 11:37 ` Alan
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