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From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen)
To: Eduard Bloch <edi@gmx.de>
Cc: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>, Tony Foiani <tkil@scrye.com>,
	Leon Woestenberg <leon.woestenberg@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: KB->KiB, MB -> MiB, ... (IEC 60027-2)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:53:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070122155354.GB25916@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070121111000.GA6679@rotes76.wohnheim.uni-kl.de>

On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 12:10:00PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> And I cannot seriosly believe that you are cappable of reading his
> examples. Megabananas are a ridiculous demonstration becase of the
> object beeing counted itself, but if you take stuff from real life then
> I doubt that you expect a kilometer to be 1024 meters. Same for
> kilogram. And a megatone is not 1048576 tones, even not 104857600 kg,
> and not 107374182400 grams. Wanna more stupid examples created by
> abusing decimal units?

The computer world has a long history of borrowing and abusing terms.
Probably the majority of computer terms came to be that way.  Why should
we change any of them now?  Should we stop calling it booting because
some people might be confused and think it means kicking the computer?
Should we rename threads because people might think it has something to
do with sewing stuff together?

> You talk for everybody, or is it just your (and only your) mind refusing
> to accept new terms? For my taste, kib and mib are even easier to
> speech, easier than {KiLoBytE} resp. {MeGaBytE} or KaaaBe / eMmmBe.

There is too much legacy code and systems around for it to ever be
nonambiguous.  It is too late to fix it, and the units that this
"standard" came up with just sound too stupid to be taken seriously.

You also don't pronounce units just because it looks like you can.  So
KiB is not easier than KB.  Heck most people in speach wouild just call
them Ks (kays or something like that).  And MBs just become Megs.  Same
for Gigs.

Whoever wasted their time coming up with this standard, well they simply
wasted their time.  It will NEVER catch on, and it will never replace
the common usage.  It's about 50 or 60 years to late for that.

--
Len Sorensen

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-01-22 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <7FxlV-3sb-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <7FyUF-5XD-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-01-21 10:40     ` Bodo Eggert
2007-01-21 11:10       ` Eduard Bloch
2007-01-21 22:08         ` Stefan Richter
2007-01-22 15:53         ` Lennart Sorensen [this message]
2007-01-22 16:58           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-22 18:36             ` Alan
2007-01-22 19:24               ` Tony Foiani
2007-01-22 22:26                 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-01-22 20:44               ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-01-22 21:17                 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-01-22 20:43             ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-01-22 21:22               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-21 14:45       ` Benny Amorsen
2007-01-21 15:06       ` Heikki Orsila
2007-01-21 21:27         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-22  1:56           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-01-22 10:39             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-22 10:48             ` Andreas Schwab
2007-01-23  1:04               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-01-23  1:45                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-23  9:23                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-01-23 13:14                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-01-20  8:08 Michał Kudła
2007-01-20 10:29 ` David Schwartz
2007-01-20 18:07   ` Leon Woestenberg
2007-01-20 22:54     ` David Schwartz
2007-01-21  0:07       ` Tony Foiani
2007-01-21 21:12         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-22  6:45           ` Tony Foiani
2007-01-22  8:25           ` Roland Kuhn
2007-01-22 15:43           ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-01-21  7:11       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-01-21 20:03         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-01-21 20:06           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-01-21 17:04       ` Leon Woestenberg
2007-01-21 22:12         ` David Schwartz
2007-01-22  8:49           ` Benny Amorsen
2007-01-27 15:06 ` Andries Brouwer

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