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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Samium Gromoff <_deepfire@feelingofgreen.ru>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Wagner <daw@cs.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Undo some of the pseudo-security madness
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:44:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070123084427.GA5560@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sle3x82o.wl@betelheise.deep.net>

Hi!

> > nor will they work if the sysadmin applies a security update and glibc
> > or another library changes one page in size. Or changes the stack rlimit
> > or .. or ..
> 
> Now, i figured out, there is a certain reasonable safety gap which works
> for people, because the libraries depended on are well known.
> 
> What happens with AS randomisation, is that the variance is simply too
> large. But what is more important, is that vendors do modifications
> which change the amount of randomisation, which means that potentially

Complain to vendors, not here.

							Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-23  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-20 14:37 Samium Gromoff
2007-01-20 16:12 ` Samium Gromoff
2007-01-20 21:58 ` David Wagner
2007-01-21  2:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-01-21 21:38   ` Samium Gromoff
2007-01-21 22:09   ` Samium Gromoff
2007-01-21 22:16     ` David Wagner
2007-01-22  0:35     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-01-22  1:15       ` Samium Gromoff
2007-01-22 17:52       ` Samium Gromoff
2007-01-23  8:44         ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-01-21 23:23 Samium Gromoff
2007-01-21 23:34 ` David Wagner
2007-01-22  0:36   ` Kyle Moffett
2007-01-22  1:53     ` Samium Gromoff
2007-02-24  9:40       ` Florian Weimer
2007-02-24 13:33         ` Samium Gromoff
2007-02-24 13:49           ` Florian Weimer
2007-01-22 15:20 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-22 17:39   ` Samium Gromoff
2007-01-23  8:48     ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-23 14:03       ` Samium Gromoff
2007-01-23 15:41         ` Alan
2007-02-24  9:51           ` Florian Weimer
2007-02-24 13:36             ` Samium Gromoff
2007-01-31  9:59         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-01  8:05           ` Florian Weimer
2007-01-22  0:54 Samium Gromoff

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