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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Create ZONE_MOVABLE to partition memory between movable and non-movable pages
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:27:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070126122747.dde74c97.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0701261147300.15394@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:58:18 -0800 (PST)
Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:

> > If the only demonstrable benefit is a saving of a few k of text on a small
> > number of machines then things are looking very grim, IMO.
> 
> The main benefit is a significant simplification of the VM, leading to 
> robust and reliable operations and a reduction of the maintenance 
> headaches coming with the additional zones.
> 
> If we would introduce the ability of allocating from a range of 
> physical addresses then the need for DMA zones would go away allowing 
> flexibility for device driver DMA allocations and at the same time we get 
> rid of special casing in the VM.

None of this is valid.  The great majority of machines out there will
continue to have the same number of zones.  Nothing changes.

What will happen is that a small number of machines will have different
runtime behaviour.  So they don't benefit from the majority's testing and
they don't contrinute to it and they potentially have unique-to-them
problems which we need to worry about.

That's all a real cost, so we need to see *good* benefits to outweigh that
cost.  Thus far I don't think we've seen that.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-26 20:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-25 23:44 Mel Gorman
2007-01-25 23:45 ` [PATCH 1/8] Add __GFP_MOVABLE for callers to flag allocations that may be migrated Mel Gorman
2007-01-26 12:27   ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-26 13:25     ` Mel Gorman
2007-01-25 23:45 ` [PATCH 2/8] Create the ZONE_MOVABLE zone Mel Gorman
2007-01-26 16:28   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-26 16:49     ` Mel Gorman
2007-01-29 17:28     ` Mel Gorman
2007-01-26 17:16   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-26 17:24     ` Mel Gorman
2007-01-26 17:25       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-26 17:38         ` Mel Gorman
2007-01-29 17:31     ` Mel Gorman
2007-01-25 23:45 ` [PATCH 3/8] Allow huge page allocations to use GFP_HIGH_MOVABLE Mel Gorman
2007-01-26 16:33   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-26 16:58     ` Mel Gorman
2007-01-26 17:04       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-26 17:20         ` Mel Gorman
2007-01-26 17:22           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-26 17:37             ` Mel Gorman
2007-01-26 17:45               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-26 17:53                 ` Mel Gorman
2007-01-26 18:20                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-26 20:37                     ` Mel Gorman
2007-01-26 18:35                   ` Chris Friesen
2007-01-26 20:44                     ` Mel Gorman
2007-01-26 21:37                       ` Chris Friesen
2007-01-25 23:46 ` [PATCH 4/8] x86 - Specify amount of kernel memory at boot time Mel Gorman
2007-01-25 23:46 ` [PATCH 5/8] ppc and powerpc " Mel Gorman
2007-01-25 23:46 ` [PATCH 6/8] x86_64 " Mel Gorman
2007-01-25 23:47 ` [PATCH 7/8] ia64 " Mel Gorman
2007-01-25 23:47 ` [PATCH 8/8] Add documentation for additional boot parameter and sysctl Mel Gorman
2007-01-26 11:07 ` [PATCH 0/8] Create ZONE_MOVABLE to partition memory between movable and non-movable pages Andrew Morton
2007-01-26 14:29   ` Mel Gorman
2007-01-26 16:01     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-26 15:56   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-26 19:46     ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-26 19:58       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-26 20:27         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-01-29 21:54           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-29 22:36             ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-29 22:45               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-29 22:50                 ` Russell King
2007-01-29 23:37                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-30  0:09                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-30  9:53                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-02-02  5:27                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-02  5:22                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-26 16:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-26 16:48   ` Mel Gorman
2007-01-26 17:02     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-26 17:20       ` Mel Gorman

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