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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: dipankar@in.ibm.com
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Paul E McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [mm PATCH 4/6] RCU: preemptible RCU
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:25:45 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070126132545.722c787c.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070126210017.GC17134@in.ibm.com>
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 02:30:17 +0530
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > As a consequence of keeping track of RCU readers, the readers
> > > have a slight overhead (optimizations in the paper).
> > > This implementation co-exists with the "classic" RCU
> > > implementations and can be switched to at compiler.
> >
> > That's yet another question we need to ask people when their kernel dies,
> > and yet another deviation between the kernels which we all test, causing
> > more dilution of testing efforts. It would be much better if we could
> > remove classic RCU. You say this would incur extra cost, but the magnitude
> > of that cost is not clear. Please help us make that decision.
>
> See the Table 2, page 10 of the paper mentioned above.
argh.
Seems I have to wade through half the paper to understand Table 2.
> There is a
> ~100ns cost per read-side critical section involved in the preemptible
> version of RCU at the moment. Until, we are sure that we don't have
> an impact on common workloads, we need to keep the "classic"
> implementation around.
Ratios, please.. that 100ns appears to be a 100% increase. ie 100ns -> 200ns.
There are a couple of ways of working out how much that really matters: a)
run a workload or b) instrument a kernel, work out how many times/sec the
kernel runs rcu_read_lock(). I suspect b) would be more useful and
informative.
Either way, please always prepare such info up-front and summarise in the
changelog? It's kinda important...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-26 21:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-15 19:19 [mm PATCH] RCU: various patches Dipankar Sarma
2007-01-15 19:21 ` [mm PATCH 1/6] RCU: split classic rcu Dipankar Sarma
2007-01-16 17:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-01-15 19:22 ` [mm PATCH 2/6] RCU: softirq for RCU Dipankar Sarma
2007-01-16 17:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-01-15 19:24 ` [mm PATCH 3/6] RCU: Fix barriers Dipankar Sarma
2007-01-16 17:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-01-15 19:28 ` [mm PATCH 4/6] RCU: preemptible RCU Dipankar Sarma
2007-01-24 0:32 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-26 21:00 ` Dipankar Sarma
2007-01-26 21:25 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-01-24 0:38 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-15 19:30 ` [mm PATCH 5/6] RCU: debug trace for RCU Dipankar Sarma
2007-01-15 19:31 ` [mm PATCH 6/6] RCU: trivial fixes Dipankar Sarma
2007-01-16 17:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
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