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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
	"Pallipadi, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
	Gautham shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: slab: start_cpu_timer/cache_reap CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU problems
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:27:42 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070129182742.GA158@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0701290922390.28330@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On 01/29, Christoph Lameter wrote:
>
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> 
> > > > This is wrong. Suppose we have a CPU_UP,CPU_DOWN,CPU_UP sequence. The last
> > > > CPU_UP will not restart a per-cpu "cache_reap timer".
> > > 
> > > Why?
> > 
> > Because the last CPU_UP calls start_cpu_timer(), but since ->work.func != NULL
> > we don't do schedule_delayed_work_on(). I think (if I am right) this is a slab's
> > bug.
> 
> The CPU_DOWN would need to set work.func == NULL for this to work. But 
> then the slab does not shut down the work queues for the processor. Isnt 
> this another issue with workqueues?

I think no, please see below. Actually, this is more related to timers for
this particular case.

>                                      The slab would need a notification 
> that the workqueue for a processor was shutdown in order to set work.func 
> = NULL.

The slab has a notification: CPU_XXX events. It should cancel a pending per
cpu "reap_work timer".

> > I think cache_reap() is not alone, and this is not its fault.
> > 
> > But please note another minor problem,
> > 
> > 	void cache_reap(struct work_struct *unused)
> > 	{
> > 		...
> > 
> > 		schedule_delayed_work(&__get_cpu_var(reap_work), ...);
> > 	}
> > 
> > Even if smp_processor_id() was stable during the execution of cache_reap(),
> > this work_struct can be moved to another CPU if CPU_DEAD happens. We can't
> > avoid this, and this is correct.
> 
> Uhh.... This may not be correct in terms of how the slab operates.

But this is practically impossible to avoid. We can't delay CPU_DOWN until all
workqueues flush their cwq->worklist. This is livelockable, the work can re-queue
itself, and new works can be added since the dying CPU is still on cpu_online_map.
This means that some pending works will be processed on another CPU.

delayed_work is even worse, the timer can migrate as well.

The first problem (smp_processor_id() is not stable) could be solved if we
use freezer or with the help of not-yet-implemented scalable lock_cpu_hotplug.

> > This means that __get_cpu_var(reap_work) returns a "wrong" struct delayed_work.
> > This is absolutely harmless right now, but may be it's better to use
> > container_of(unused, struct delayed_work, work).
> 
> Well seems that we have a set of unresolved issues with workqueues and cpu 
> hotplug.

Yes.

Oleg.



  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-29 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-29  1:13 Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-29 16:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-29 17:19   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-29 17:27     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-29 18:27       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2007-01-29 19:09         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-29 19:29           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-29 19:25         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-29 19:49           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-29 20:29             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-29 21:05               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-29 21:48                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-29 22:14                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-20 18:39         ` Max Krasnyansky
2007-02-20 18:45           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-20 20:05             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-20 21:22               ` Max Krasnyansky
2007-02-20 21:35                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-20 22:01                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2007-02-20 22:14                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-20 22:48                       ` SLAB cache reaper on isolated cpus Max Krasnyansky
2007-02-20 23:19                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-21  3:41                           ` Max Krasnyansky
2007-02-20 21:05             ` slab: start_cpu_timer/cache_reap CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU problems Max Krasnyansky
2007-02-20 21:34               ` Christoph Lameter

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