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From: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@openvz.org>
To: Duncan Sands <duncan.sands@math.u-psud.fr>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, adobriyan@gmail.com
Subject: Re: remove_proc_entry and read_proc
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:39:32 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070205113932.GA5968@localhost.sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200702020831.58229.duncan.sands@math.u-psud.fr>
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 08:31:57AM +0100, Duncan Sands wrote:
> > I believe, barriers not needed, not now.
> > This scheme relies on the fact that remove_proc_entry() will be the only
> > place that will clear ->proc_fops and, once cleared, ->proc_fops will
> > never be resurrected. Clearing of ->proc_fops will eventually propagate
> > to CPU doing first check, thus preveting refcount bumps from this CPU.
> > What can be missed is some "rogue" readers or writers¹. Big deal.
>
> I don't understand you. Without memory barriers, remove_proc_entry will
> most of the time, but not all of the time, wait for all readers and writers
> to finish before exiting. Since the whole point of your patch was to ensure
> that all readers and writers finish before remove_proc_entry exits, I don't
> understand why you don't just put the memory barriers in and make it correct.
Gee, thanks. I sat and wrote code side-by-side, and it looks like, even barriers
won't fix anything, because they don't affect other CPUs. There will be
new patch soon.
->proc_fops is valid ->proc_fops is valid
->pde_users is 0 ->pde_users is 0
------------------------------------------------------------
if (!pde->proc_fops)
goto out;
->proc_fops = NULL;
if (atomic_read(->pde_users) > 0)
goto again;
|
| atomic_inc(->pde_users);
|
|
|
V
> Also, I do consider it a big deal:
>
> > ¹ Sigh, modules should do removals of proc entries first. And I should
> > check for that.
>
> Modules should of course call remove_proc_entry before exiting. However
> right now, even with your patch, a read or write method can still be
> running when remove_proc_entry returns [1], so could still be running when
> the module is removed (if they sleep; I guess this applies mostly to
> write methods). This is very bad - why not put in memory barriers and
> fix it? Also, plenty of proc read and write methods access private data
> that is allocated before calling create_proc_entry and freed after calling
> remove_proc_entry. If a read or write method is still running after
> remove_proc_entry returns, then it can access freed memory - very bad.
> [1] proc_get_inode does a try_module_get, so it is possible that module
> unloading is not a problem - not sure.
Modules forget to set ->owner sometimes. Also, it's still racy, because
of the typical
pde = create_proc_entry();
/*
*
* ->owner is NULL here, effectively, PDE without ->owner.
*
*/
if (pde)
pde->owner = THIS_MODULE;
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-05 11:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-01 16:09 Alexey Dobriyan
2007-02-02 7:31 ` Duncan Sands
2007-02-05 11:39 ` Alexey Dobriyan [this message]
2007-02-05 12:05 ` Duncan Sands
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-31 10:54 Duncan Sands
2007-01-31 18:42 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-01-31 19:26 ` Duncan Sands
2007-02-01 10:15 ` Duncan Sands
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