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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/11] Panic delay fix
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 12:35:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070207123552.GD4481@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45C8FA2D.6010706@vmware.com>
Hi!
> >
> >>Failure to use real-time delay here causes the
> >>keyboard to become demonically
> >>possessed in the event of a kernel crash, with wildly
> >>blinking lights and
> >>unpredictable behavior. This has resulted in several
> >>injuries.
> >
> >There must be a reason why it wasn't default before.
> >Has this
> >reason changed?
>
> This only matters under paravirt; non-paravirt kernels
> and kernels running on native hardware will always
> behave properly.
>
> But paravirtualized kernels with fake devices have no
> need to udelay to accommodate slow hardware - the
> hardware is just virtual. The USE_REAL_TIME_DELAY
> define allows udelay to be specifically reverted back to
> being a real delay. There are only a couple cases where
Ugh, it sounds like paravirt is more b0rken then I thought. It should
always to the proper delay, then replace those udelays that are not
needed on virtualized hardware with something else.
Just magically defining udelay into nop is broken.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-07 12:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-06 3:53 Zachary Amsden
2007-02-06 12:27 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-06 21:59 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-07 12:35 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-02-07 20:36 ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-07 22:23 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-08 14:43 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-02-08 21:26 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-08 21:37 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-02-14 12:26 ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-14 19:47 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-14 12:52 ` Alan
2007-02-14 20:04 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-14 21:34 ` Alan
2007-02-14 21:53 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-15 0:33 ` Alan
2007-02-15 10:17 ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-15 23:42 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-15 23:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-15 23:50 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 3:22 ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-07 14:58 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-02-07 22:31 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-08 8:24 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-08 9:08 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-08 13:33 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-08 14:41 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-02-14 12:49 ` Alan
2007-02-14 22:51 ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-15 0:28 ` Alan
2007-02-15 13:35 ` Dmitry Torokhov
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