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From: Alan <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/11] Panic delay fix
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:52:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070214125216.2befda78@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1170880572.11736.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

> We'd have to audit and figure out what udelays are for hardware and
> which are not, but the evidence is that the vast majority of them are
> for hardware and not needed for virtualization.

Which is irrelevant since the hardware drivers won't be used in a
virtualised environment with any kind of performance optimisation.

> Changing udelay to "hardware_udelay" or something all over the kernel
> would have delayed the paravirt_ops merge by an infinite amount 8)

paravirt_ops has no business fiddling with udelay. Not only does it
create more code bloat and stalls in relatively fast paths but its
optimising the wrong thing anyway.

My performance sucks -> optimise out udelay is the wrong approach. My
performance sucks, switch to the virtual block driver is the right
approach, and a virtual block driver won't be using udelay anyway

Alan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-02-14 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-06  3:53 Zachary Amsden
2007-02-06 12:27 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-06 21:59   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-07 12:35     ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-07 20:36       ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-07 22:23         ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-08 14:43         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-02-08 21:26           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-08 21:37             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-02-14 12:26         ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-14 19:47           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-14 12:52         ` Alan [this message]
2007-02-14 20:04           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-14 21:34             ` Alan
2007-02-14 21:53               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-15  0:33                 ` Alan
2007-02-15 10:17             ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-15 23:42               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-15 23:49                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-15 23:50                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  3:22                 ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-07 14:58     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-02-07 22:31       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-08  8:24         ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-08  9:08           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-08 13:33             ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-08 14:41               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-02-14 12:49             ` Alan
2007-02-14 22:51 ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-15  0:28   ` Alan
2007-02-15 13:35   ` Dmitry Torokhov

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