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From: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, herbert.xu@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arjan@infradead.org,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] MODSIGN: Kernel module signing
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:12:43 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200702151412.43758.agruen@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200702152034.l1FKYS93012172@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

On Thursday 15 February 2007 12:34, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:14:53 PST, Andreas Gruenbacher said:
> > I agree, that's really what should happen. We solve this by marking
> > modules as supported, partner supported, or unsupported, but in an
> > "insecure" way, so partners and users could try to fake the support
> > status of a module and/or remove status flags from Oopses, and
> > cryptography wouldn't save us.
>
> Where cryptography *can* save you is that a partner or user can't fake a
> 'Suse Supported' signature without access to the Suse private key.

No question about that. We actually already get this from rpm signatures. What 
would module signatures buy us? The kernel could then reliably determine that 
an unsigned module was loaded. But people could still fake their Oopses, or 
overwite the flags which indicate that a module's signature didn't match, so 
we still wouldn't reliably get at that information.

Andreas

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-15 22:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-14 19:09 David Howells
2007-02-14 19:09 ` [PATCH 2/6] MODSIGN: In-kernel crypto extensions David Howells
2007-02-14 19:09 ` [PATCH 3/6] MODSIGN: Add indications of module ELF types David Howells
2007-02-14 19:09 ` [PATCH 4/6] MODSIGN: Module ELF verifier David Howells
2007-02-14 19:10 ` [PATCH 5/6] MODSIGN: Module signature checker and key manager David Howells
2007-02-14 19:10 ` [PATCH 6/6] MODSIGN: Apply signature checking to modules on module load David Howells
2007-02-14 19:26 ` [PATCH 0/6] MODSIGN: Kernel module signing Linus Torvalds
2007-02-14 19:40 ` David Howells
2007-02-14 21:32   ` Michael Halcrow
2007-02-14 21:59   ` David Howells
2007-02-14 22:21     ` Michael Halcrow
2007-02-15 21:31   ` Indan Zupancic
2007-02-15  3:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-15  4:13   ` Dave Jones
2007-02-15  5:35     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-02-15  5:45       ` Dave Jones
2007-02-15  6:14         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-02-15  6:22           ` Dave Jones
2007-02-15 20:34           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-02-15 22:12             ` Andreas Gruenbacher [this message]
2007-02-16  0:15               ` Olaf Kirch
2007-02-15 22:10           ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-15 20:55     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-02-15 21:32       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-02-15 22:12         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-02-15 14:35 ` Roman Zippel
2007-02-15 17:32 ` David Howells
2007-02-15 18:33   ` Roman Zippel
2007-02-15 20:01     ` David Lang
2007-02-15 21:01       ` Roman Zippel
2007-02-15 21:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-02-15 22:13 ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-16 20:21   ` Dave Jones
2007-02-16 20:27     ` Arjan van de Ven
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     [not found] ` <7OxPF-16i-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <7OSKA-8A-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <7OTGJ-1G5-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-02-16 15:38       ` Bodo Eggert

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