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From: Frederik Deweerdt <deweerdt@free.fr>
To: rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk
Cc: jose.goncalves@inov.pt, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Serial related oops
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:48:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070220144814.GJ566@slug> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070219143520.GB27370@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>

(trimmed tie-fei.zang from the CC, added by mistake)
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 02:35:20PM +0000, Russell King wrote:
> > Neither did I, but introducing printk's through the function, we narrowed
> > the problem to this part of the code. And removing it makes the problem
> > go away. We inserted 37 printk's in the function body, and Jose bisected
> > those until the problem went away.
> 
> Well, there's still little clue about why this is causing a NULL pointer
> dereference.  The only thing I can think is that somehow performing
> this test is causing a power glitch to your CPU, causing its registers
> to get corrupted, and which results in it doing a NULL pointer deref.
That may be the case, indeed.
> 
> Are you saying that the NULL pointer occurred while executing this code?
> If not, where does the NULL pointer occur?
The thing is, the NULL pointer deref dissapeared as soon as we
instrumented (printk'ed) the code. So it's seems to be triggered by
check+timing+hardware.
> 
> > > No, it's only runtime because you can't tell which ports might be
> > > affected, and you might have a mixture of ports which are affected
> > > and those which aren't.
> > Hmm, ok. And what about a CONFIG_I_KNOW_MY_SERIAL_IS_BROKEN option?
> 
> Andrew's said no (in that the thread you refer to) and suggested an
> alternative, I've said no, how many more 'no's do you need to turn
> you away from the wrong approach?
One is usually sufficient once I've understood :). I missed the module
option approach. Is it ok with you? If yes, I'll put up a patch to do
this.
> 
> > > > PS: CCing Andrew and Zang Roy-r61911 as they seemed to discuss this in
> > > > http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/6/13/21
> > > 
> > > I don't see any reference to this problem there.
> >
> > Sorry, I suck, I got that mixed with that one:
> > http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/12/26/63
> > "probing for UART_BUG_TXEN in 8250 driver leads to weird effects on some
> > ARM boards"
> 
> The "weird effects" were never quantified, so that's one of the reasons
> I ignored that report (another being is that I stopped being the serial
> maintainer a while ago, and now serial is maintainerless.)
> 
The problem appears to be reproducible on Jose's hardware within 2-3 days.
If you see other tests to be performed...

Regards,
Frederik

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-19 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-20 13:29 Frederik Deweerdt
2007-02-19 13:45 ` Russell King
2007-02-20 14:24   ` Frederik Deweerdt
2007-02-19 14:35     ` Russell King
2007-02-20 14:48       ` Frederik Deweerdt [this message]
2007-02-19 15:05         ` Russell King
2007-02-19 16:29           ` Jose Goncalves
2007-02-19 16:42             ` Russell King
2007-02-19 17:54               ` Jose Goncalves
2007-02-19 20:37                 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-19 20:51                   ` Russell King
2007-02-19 21:24                     ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-19 21:31                       ` Russell King
2007-02-19 22:16                         ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-19 23:20                           ` Russell King
2007-02-20  0:04                             ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-20  0:21                               ` Russell King
2007-02-20  2:17                                 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-24  2:46                             ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-19 21:23                 ` Russell King
2007-02-21 14:13                   ` Jose Goncalves
2007-02-21 14:55                     ` Jose Goncalves
2007-02-21 22:53                     ` Frederik Deweerdt
2007-02-21 23:05                     ` Russell King
2007-02-22  0:34                       ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-22  8:54                         ` Russell King
2007-02-22 15:07                           ` Jose Goncalves
2007-02-22 16:56                             ` Russell King
2007-02-22 17:24                               ` jose.goncalves
2007-02-22  5:57                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-02-22  7:39                         ` Frederik Deweerdt
2007-02-22  8:52                         ` Russell King
2007-02-22 15:02                       ` Jose Goncalves
2007-02-22 17:03                         ` Russell King
2007-02-22 17:21                           ` jose.goncalves
2007-02-22 17:32                           ` Paul Fulghum
2007-03-01 13:33                           ` Jose Goncalves
2007-03-01 15:10                             ` Russell King
2007-03-01 15:24                               ` Jose Goncalves
     [not found] <fa.0IigYYV566ZB0kBHCj88jOEJx1s@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.IE91N03KQO01UZbOdcF6HewOdYc@ifi.uio.no>
2007-02-20  2:48   ` Robert Hancock
2007-02-20  4:59     ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-20  5:18       ` Robert Hancock

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