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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Gutschke <markus@google.com>,
"Kawai, Hidehiro" <hidehiro.kawai.ez@hitachi.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
sugita <yumiko.sugita.yf@hitachi.com>,
Satoshi OSHIMA <soshima@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] coredump: core dump masking support v3
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:01:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070226120154.GD3386@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2910.1172490554@redhat.com>
> > While I am sure you could construct scenarios where this would happen,
> > realistically the only one I have run into were stack overflows, and they can
> > be handled by carefully setting up an alternate stack for signal handlers --
> > just make sure the entire stack is already dirtied before you run out of
> > memory (or, turn of overcommitting).
>
> Duff SIGSEGV or SIGBUS signal handlers are just as realistic. All that takes
> is for someone to make a programming error. Remember: error paths are the
> least frequently tested.
>
> And any time you say "by carefully setting up" you can guarantee someone's
> going to do it wrong.
By same argument, we should just give up the coredumping in kernel. It
is rarely tested, so someone will just get it wrong.
Remember: we are having people with huge apps, and therefore huge
coredumps. They want to hack a kernel in ugly way to make their dumps
smaller.
...but there's better solution for them, create (& debug) userland
coredumping library. No need to hack a kernel.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-26 12:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-16 13:34 [PATCH 0/4] coredump: core dump masking support v3 Kawai, Hidehiro
2007-02-16 13:39 ` [PATCH 1/4] coredump: add an interface to control the core dump routine Kawai, Hidehiro
2007-02-16 13:40 ` [PATCH 2/4] coredump: ELF: enable to omit anonymous shared memory Kawai, Hidehiro
2007-02-16 13:41 ` [PATCH 3/4] coredump: ELF-FDPIC: " Kawai, Hidehiro
2007-02-16 13:42 ` [PATCH 4/4] coredump: documentation for proc entry Kawai, Hidehiro
2007-02-16 15:05 ` [PATCH 3/4] coredump: ELF-FDPIC: enable to omit anonymous shared memory David Howells
2007-02-16 16:50 ` Robin Holt
2007-02-16 20:09 ` David Howells
2007-03-02 16:55 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-03-03 14:10 ` David Howells
2007-03-05 19:04 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-03-06 18:13 ` David Howells
2007-03-09 14:12 ` Move to unshared VMAs in NOMMU mode? David Howells
2007-03-12 20:50 ` Robin Getz
2007-03-13 10:14 ` David Howells
2007-03-15 21:20 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-03-15 22:47 ` David Howells
2007-03-19 19:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-20 11:06 ` David Howells
2007-03-20 16:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-20 19:12 ` David Howells
2007-03-20 19:51 ` David Howells
2007-03-21 16:11 ` David Howells
2007-03-03 14:25 ` [PATCH] NOMMU: Hide vm_mm in NOMMU mode David Howells
2007-02-20 9:45 ` [PATCH 3/4] coredump: ELF-FDPIC: enable to omit anonymous shared memory Kawai, Hidehiro
2007-02-20 10:58 ` David Howells
2007-02-20 12:56 ` Robin Holt
2007-02-21 10:00 ` Kawai, Hidehiro
2007-02-21 11:33 ` David Howells
2007-02-21 11:54 ` Robin Holt
2007-02-22 5:33 ` Kawai, Hidehiro
2007-02-22 11:47 ` David Howells
2007-02-16 15:08 ` [PATCH 0/4] coredump: core dump masking support v3 David Howells
2007-02-20 9:48 ` Kawai, Hidehiro
2007-02-24 3:32 ` Markus Gutschke
2007-02-24 11:39 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-01 12:35 ` Kawai, Hidehiro
2007-03-01 18:16 ` Markus Gutschke
2007-02-24 10:02 ` David Howells
2007-02-24 20:01 ` Markus Gutschke
2007-02-26 11:49 ` David Howells
2007-02-26 12:01 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-02-26 12:42 ` David Howells
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