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From: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
To: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFD] Incremental fsck
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:26:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801101626.53315.a1426z@gawab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080109094412.73f3249c@cuia.boston.redhat.com>

Rik van Riel wrote:
> Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com> wrote:
> > Ok, but let's look at this a bit more opportunistic / optimistic.
>
> You can't play fast and loose with data integrity.

Correct, but you have to be realistic...

> Besides, if we looked at things optimistically, we would conclude
> that no fsck will be needed,

And that's the reality, because people are mostly optimistic and feel 
extremely tempted to just force-mount a dirty ext3fs, instead of waiting 
hours-on-end for a complete fsck, which mostly comes back with some benign 
"inode should be zero" warning.

> ever :)

Well not ever, but most people probably fsck during scheduled shutdowns, or 
when they are forced to, due to online fs accessibility errors.

> > > http://infohost.nmt.edu/~val/review/chunkfs.pdf
>
> You will really want to read this paper, if you haven't already.

Definitely a good read, but attacking the problem from a completely different 
POV.

BTW:  Dropped some cc's due to bounces.


Thanks!

--
Al


  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-10 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-08 21:22 Al Boldi
2008-01-08 21:31 ` Alan
2008-01-09  9:16   ` Andreas Dilger
2008-01-12 23:55     ` Daniel Phillips
2008-01-08 21:41 ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-09  4:40   ` Al Boldi
2008-01-09  7:45     ` Valerie Henson
2008-01-09 11:52       ` Al Boldi
2008-01-09 14:44         ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-10 13:26           ` Al Boldi [this message]
2008-01-12 14:51         ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-13 11:05           ` Al Boldi
2008-01-13 17:19           ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-13 17:41             ` Alan Cox
2008-01-15 20:16               ` [Patch] document ext3 requirements (was Re: [RFD] Incremental fsck) Pavel Machek
2008-01-15 21:43                 ` David Chinner
2008-01-15 23:07                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-15 23:44                     ` Daniel Phillips
2008-01-16  0:15                       ` Alan Cox
2008-01-16  1:24                         ` Daniel Phillips
2008-01-16  1:36                           ` Chris Mason
2008-01-17 20:54                             ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-16 19:06                           ` Bryan Henderson
2008-01-16 20:05                             ` Alan Cox
2008-01-17  2:02                             ` Daniel Phillips
2008-01-17 21:37                               ` Bryan Henderson
2008-01-17 22:45                               ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-17 22:58                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-17 23:18                                 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-01-18  0:31                                   ` Bryan Henderson
2008-01-18 14:23                                     ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-18 15:16                                       ` [Patch] document ext3 requirements (was Re: [RFD] Incrementalfsck) linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2008-01-19 14:53                                         ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-18 15:26                                       ` [Patch] document ext3 requirements (was Re: [RFD] Incremental fsck) Ric Wheeler
2008-01-18 20:34                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-18 22:35                                           ` Bryan Henderson
2008-01-18 15:08                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-18 17:43                                       ` Bryan Henderson
2008-01-16 21:28                         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-01-16 11:51                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-16 12:20                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-19 14:51                           ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-16 16:38                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-16  1:44                 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-01-16  3:05                   ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-17  7:38                     ` Andreas Dilger
2008-01-16 11:49                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-16 20:52                     ` Valerie Henson
2008-01-17 12:29                   ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-01-17 22:51                     ` Daniel Phillips
2008-01-15  1:04             ` [RFD] Incremental fsck Ric Wheeler
2008-01-14  0:22           ` Daniel Phillips
2008-01-09  8:04     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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     [not found] ` <9JB3e-85S-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <9JDRm-4bR-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <9JHLl-2dL-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-01-11 14:20       ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-12 10:20         ` Al Boldi

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