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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	travis@sgi.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] x86: Reduce memory and intra-node effects with large count NR_CPUs
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:34:39 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801161834.39746.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801141230.56403.ak@suse.de>

On Monday 14 January 2008 22:30, Andi Kleen wrote:

> In general there are more scaling problems like this (e.g. it also doesn't
> make sense to scale kernel threads for each CPU thread for example).

I think in a lot of ways, per-CPU kernel threads scale OK. At least
they should mostly be dynamic, so they don't require overhead on
smaller systems. On larger systems, I don't know if there are too
many kernel problems with all those threads (except for userspace
tools sometimes don't report well).

And I think making them per-CPU can be much easier than tuning some
arbitrary algorithm to get a mix between parallelism and footprint.

For example, I'm finding that it might actually be worthwhile to move
some per-node and dynamically-controlled thread creation over to the
basic per-CPU scheme because of differences in topologies...

Anyway, that's just an aside.

Oh, just while I remember it also, something funny is that MAX_NUMNODES
can be bigger than NR_CPUS on x86. I guess one can have CPUless nodes,
but wouldn't it make sense to have an upper bound of NR_CPUS by default?

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-16  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-13 18:34 [PATCH 00/10] x86: Reduce memory and intra-node effects with large count NR_CPUs travis
2008-01-13 18:34 ` [PATCH 01/10] x86: Change size of APICIDs from u8 to u16 travis
2008-01-14 12:23   ` Mel Gorman
2008-01-14 18:13     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-14 19:26     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-14 18:10   ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-14 18:22     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-14 18:32     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-14 19:16       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-13 18:34 ` [PATCH 02/10] x86: Change size of node ids " travis
2008-01-13 20:01   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-01-13 18:34 ` [PATCH 03/10] x86: Change NR_CPUS arrays in powernow-k8 travis
2008-01-13 18:34 ` [PATCH 04/10] x86: Change NR_CPUS arrays in intel_cacheinfo travis
2008-01-13 18:34 ` [PATCH 05/10] x86: Change NR_CPUS arrays in smpboot_64 travis
2008-01-13 18:34 ` [PATCH 06/10] x86: Change NR_CPUS arrays in topology travis
2008-01-14 18:25   ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-14 19:08     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-13 18:35 ` [PATCH 07/10] x86: Cleanup x86_cpu_to_apicid references travis
2008-01-13 18:35 ` [PATCH 08/10] x86: Change NR_CPUS arrays in numa_64 travis
2008-01-14 11:14   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-14 17:17     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-14 18:14   ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-13 18:35 ` [PATCH 09/10] x86: Change NR_CPUS arrays in acpi-cpufreq travis
2008-01-13 18:35 ` [PATCH 10/10] x86: Change bios_cpu_apicid to percpu data variable travis
2008-01-14  8:14 ` [PATCH 00/10] x86: Reduce memory and intra-node effects with large count NR_CPUs Ingo Molnar
2008-01-14  9:00   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-14 17:52     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-14 10:04   ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-14 10:11     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-14 11:30       ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-16  7:34         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-01-16 18:07           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-14 18:00       ` Mike Travis

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