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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@phunq.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [git pull] x86 arch updates for v2.6.25
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:20:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200802071120.27395.phillips@phunq.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0802041922300.3237@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Monday 04 February 2008 19:27, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > The x86 tree was merged several times, but I don't see kgdb
> > included in latest mainline -git.
> >
> > So just one question, will it be included or no?
>
> I won't even consider pulling it unless it's offered as a separate
> tree, not mixed up with other things. At that point I can give a
> look.
>
> That said, I explained to Ingo why I'm not particularly interested in
> it. I don't think that "developer-centric" debugging is really even
> remotely our problem, and that I'm personally a lot more interested
> in infrastructure that helps normal users give better bug-reports.
> And kgdb isn't even _remotely_ it.
>
> So I'd merge a patch that puts oops information (or the whole console
> printout) in the Intel management stuff in a heartbeat. That code is
> likely much grottier than any kgdb thing will ever be (Intel really
> screwed up the interface and made it some insane XML thing), but it's
> also fundamentally more important - if it means that normal users can
> give oops reports after they happened in X (or, these days, probably
> more commonly during suspend/resume) and the machine just died.
>
> kgdb? Not so interesting. We have many more hard problems happening
> at user sites, not in developer hands.

Hi Linus,

If you listen carefully you can hear dozens of Linux kernel developers 
collectively holding their breath and thinking "Maybe Linus will 
finally merge kgdb".  Yes, user bug reports are important.  Developer 
efficiency is important too.

Regards,

Daniel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-07 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-30  1:15 Ingo Molnar
2008-01-31  0:33 ` x86 arch updates also broke s390 Adrian Bunk
2008-01-31  9:34   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-31 10:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-31 12:37       ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-01  9:48     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-01  9:52       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-01  9:54       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-02-01 10:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-31 15:57 ` [git pull] x86 arch updates for v2.6.25 Adrian Bunk
2008-01-31 16:00   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-31 16:04     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-31 16:12     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-31 16:15       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-31 16:21         ` WANG Cong
2008-01-31 16:24         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-31 16:46           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-31 16:52             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-31 16:29         ` sparc compile error caused by x86 arch updates Adrian Bunk
2008-01-31 16:50           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-31 17:43             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-31 17:55               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-31 18:21               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-31 18:38                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-05  2:36 ` [git pull] x86 arch updates for v2.6.25 Maxim Levitsky
2008-02-05  3:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-05  4:11     ` Phil Oester
2008-02-05  4:54       ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-06 12:08         ` Jan Kiszka
2008-02-07 20:00           ` Daniel Phillips
2008-02-08  4:48       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-08  9:51         ` Jan Kiszka
2008-02-05 17:45     ` John Stoffel
2008-02-05 17:52       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-08 18:24         ` Bernhard Kaindl
2008-02-08 19:38           ` remote DMA via FireWire (was Re: [git pull] x86 arch updates for v2.6.25) Stefan Richter
2008-02-07 19:20     ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2008-02-08 17:00     ` [git pull] x86 arch updates for v2.6.25 Andi Kleen
2008-02-08 17:48       ` Jan Kiszka
2008-02-08 18:57         ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-08 21:28           ` [RFC][PATCH] KGDB: remove kgdb-own fault handling (was: Re: [git pull] x86 arch updates for v2.6.25) Jan Kiszka
2008-02-08 21:58             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-08 22:16               ` [RFC][PATCH] KGDB: remove kgdb-own fault handling Jason Wessel
2008-02-09 14:11 ` [git pull] x86 arch updates for v2.6.25 Amit Shah
2008-02-10 12:30   ` Jiri Kosina
2008-02-12  7:16     ` Amit Shah
2008-02-13  8:56       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-13 10:19         ` Amit Shah
2008-02-06  2:28 David Cullen

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