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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: Roel Kluin <12o3l@tiscali.nl>,
	geoffrey.levand@am.sony.com, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	cbe-oss-dev@ozlabs.org, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Fix Unlikely(x) == y
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:29:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080216102957.56986e03@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080216175849.GA25636@1wt.eu>

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:58:49 +0100
> > If you think unlikely() means something else, we should fix what it
> > maps to towards gcc ;) (to.. be empty ;)
> 
> eventhough the gcc docs say it's just a hint to help the compiler
> optimize the branch it takes by default, I too have noticed that it
> more often does bad than good. Code gets completely reordered and
> even sometimes partially duplicated (especially when the branch is a
> return).
> 
> Last but not least, gcc 4 tends to emit stupid checks, to the point
> that I have replaced unlikely(x) with (x) in my code when gcc >= 4 is
> detected. What I observe is that the following code :
> 
>     if (unlikely(p == NULL)) ...

this is pure bad since GCC already assumes that NULL checks are unlikely,
and with the unlikely() code needing to normalize stuff... it will generate 
worse code for sure yes.

> 
> often gets coded like this :
> 
>     reg1 = (p == NULL)
>     if (reg1 != 0) ...
> 
> ... which clobbers reg1 for nothing and performs a double test.
> 
> But yes, I assumed that the author considered its use to be
> legitimate (I've not looked at the code). Maybe you're right and it
> should be removed, but in this case we would need a large audit of
> the abuses of unlikely()...

no argument.. how about we start with all the cases where the author just got it 
entirely wrong ... like the ones from this patch ;)


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-16 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-16 16:08 Roel Kluin
2008-02-16 17:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-16 17:33   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-16 17:42     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-16 17:58       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-16 18:29         ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2008-02-17  9:45         ` [Cbe-oss-dev] " Andrew Pinski
2008-02-17 10:08           ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-16 18:31       ` Geoff Levand
2008-02-16 18:39         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-17 11:50           ` Michael Ellerman
2008-02-18 13:56             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-18 14:01               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-02-18 14:13                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-18 21:46                   ` Michael Ellerman
2008-02-19  7:43                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-18 19:22                 ` [Cbe-oss-dev] " Andrew Pinski
2008-02-18 14:27               ` David Howells
2008-02-18 14:59                 ` Roel Kluin
2008-02-18 18:11                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-02-18 18:33                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-18 14:39       ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-19  2:33         ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19  2:40           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-19  4:41             ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19  5:58           ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-19  6:20             ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19  9:28             ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-20  7:32               ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-19  9:25           ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-19  9:46             ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19  9:57               ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-19 22:25                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-16 18:41 ` Geoff Levand

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