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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com>
Cc: Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au>,
Roel Kluin <12o3l@tiscali.nl>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
cbe-oss-dev@ozlabs.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Fix Unlikely(x) == y
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:13:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080218141340.GB667@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802181500410.13406@vixen.sonytel.be>
On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 03:01:35PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> >
> > This means it generates faster code with a current gcc for your platform.
> >
> > But a future gcc might e.g. replace the whole loop with a division
> > (gcc SVN head (that will soon become gcc 4.3) already does
> > transformations like replacing loops with divisions [1]).
>
> Hence shouldn't we ask the gcc people what's the purpose of __builtin_expect(),
> if it doesn't live up to its promise?
That's a different issue.
My point here is that we do not know how the latest gcc available in the
year 2010 might transform this code, and how a likely/unlikely placed
there might influence gcc's optimizations then.
If this is in hotpath code with a measurable speedup when using
likely/unlikely with a current gcc then it's worth it.
But otherwise it brings no real advantage today and the longterm effects
are not predictable.
> With kind regards,
>
> Geert Uytterhoeven
cu
Adrian
--
"Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-18 14:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-16 16:08 Roel Kluin
2008-02-16 17:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-16 17:33 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-16 17:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-16 17:58 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-16 18:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-17 9:45 ` [Cbe-oss-dev] " Andrew Pinski
2008-02-17 10:08 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-16 18:31 ` Geoff Levand
2008-02-16 18:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-17 11:50 ` Michael Ellerman
2008-02-18 13:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-18 14:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-02-18 14:13 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2008-02-18 21:46 ` Michael Ellerman
2008-02-19 7:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-18 19:22 ` [Cbe-oss-dev] " Andrew Pinski
2008-02-18 14:27 ` David Howells
2008-02-18 14:59 ` Roel Kluin
2008-02-18 18:11 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-02-18 18:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-18 14:39 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-19 2:33 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19 2:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-19 4:41 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19 5:58 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-19 6:20 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19 9:28 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-20 7:32 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-19 9:25 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-19 9:46 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19 9:57 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-19 22:25 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-16 18:41 ` Geoff Levand
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