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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
Cc: Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
autofs mailing list <autofs@linux.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] autofs4 - track uid and gid of last mount requestor
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:23:39 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080227232339.af6e904a.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1204182500.3501.49.camel@raven.themaw.net>
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:08:20 +0900 Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > What problem are you actually trying to solve here?
>
> The basic problem arises only when we want to restart the user space
> daemon and there are active autofs managed mounts in place at exit (ie.
> autofs mounts that have busy user mounts). They are left mounted and
> processes using them continue to function. But then, when we startup
> autofs we need to reconnect to these autofs mounts, some of which can
> covered the by mounted file systems, and hence the need for another way
> to open an ioctl descriptor to them.
So we want to store persistant state in the kernel across userspace process
invokations. That's normally done with a thing called a "file" ;) Could we
stick all the necessary state into files in a pseudo-fs and have the daemon
go and open and read them all when it restarts?
> It may have been overkill to re-implement all the current ioctls (and
> add a couple of other much needed ones)
I don't understand that bit. But then, I don't have a clue how autofs
works.
> but I though it sensible for
> completeness, and we get to identify any possible problems the current
> ioctls might have had due to the use of the BKL (by the VFS when calling
> the ioctls).
It isn't a good idea to wait for races to reveal themselves. It will take
years, especially with a system which has as low a call frequency as autofs
mounting. And once a bug _does_ reveal itself, by then we'll have tens of
millions of machines out there running that bug.
> So, why do we need the uid and gid? When someone walks over an autofs
> dentry that is meant to cause a mount we send a request packet to the
> daemon via a pipe
connector or genetlink would be more fashionable transports.
> which includes the process uid and gid, and as part of
> the lookup we set macros for several mount map substitution variables,
> derived from the uid and gid of the process requesting the mount and
> they can be used within autofs maps.
yeah, could be a problem. Hopefully the namespace people can advise.
Perhaps we need a concept of an exportable-to-userspace namespace-id+uid,
namespace-id+gid, namespace-id+pid, etc for this sort of thing. It has
come up before. Recently, but I forget what the context was.
> This is all fine as long as we don't need to re-connect to these mounts
> when starting up, since we don't get kernel requests for the mounts, we
> need to obtain that information from the active mount itself.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-28 7:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-26 3:21 [PATCH 0/4] autofs4 - autofs needs a miscelaneous device for ioctls Ian Kent
2008-02-26 3:22 ` [PATCH 1/4] autofs4 - check for invalid dentry in getpath Ian Kent
2008-02-26 3:23 ` [PATCH 3/4] autofs4 - track uid and gid of last mount requestor Ian Kent
2008-02-26 5:14 ` [PATCH 3/4] autofs4 - track uid and gid of last mount requestor - correction Ian Kent
2008-02-28 4:45 ` [PATCH 3/4] autofs4 - track uid and gid of last mount requestor Andrew Morton
2008-02-28 6:22 ` Ian Kent
2008-02-28 6:37 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-28 7:08 ` Ian Kent
2008-02-28 7:23 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-02-28 8:00 ` Ian Kent
2008-02-28 17:13 ` Jeff Moyer
2008-02-28 19:51 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-02-29 3:32 ` Ian Kent
2008-02-29 16:09 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-02-29 16:20 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-02-29 17:42 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-02 0:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-02 1:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-03 15:28 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-04 22:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-02-28 7:51 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-02-28 7:59 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-28 8:06 ` Ian Kent
2008-02-28 12:31 ` [autofs] " Fabio Olive Leite
2008-02-28 20:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-02-26 3:23 ` [PATCH 4/4] autofs4 - add miscelaneous device for ioctls Ian Kent
2008-02-28 5:17 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-28 6:18 ` Ian Kent
2008-03-13 7:00 ` [RFC] " Ian Kent
2008-03-14 2:45 ` Ian Kent
2008-03-14 12:45 ` Thomas Graf
2008-03-14 14:10 ` Ian Kent
2008-02-29 16:24 ` Ian Kent
2008-04-11 7:02 ` Ian Kent
2008-04-12 4:03 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 4:45 ` Ian Kent
2008-02-26 4:29 ` [PATCH 2/4] autofs4 - add mount option to display mount device Ian Kent
2008-02-28 5:17 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-28 4:40 ` [PATCH 0/4] autofs4 - autofs needs a miscelaneous device for ioctls Andrew Morton
2008-02-28 6:07 ` Ian Kent
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