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From: "Carlos R. Mafra" <crmafra2@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: ray-lk@madrabbit.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Interactivity issue in 2.6.25-rc3
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:14:42 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080229171442.GA5173@localhost.ift.unesp.br> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080229160408.GG27248@elte.hu>
On Fri 29.Feb'08 at 17:04:08 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> (on-list)
>
> * Carlos R. Mafra <crmafra2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is it an scheduler anomaly if 'se.wait_max' is bigger than 40 msecs
> > for _any_ of the processes which appear in the debug script log? In
> > other words, is the scheduler mathematically build to not allow
> > latencies higher than 40 msecs?
>
> it is definitely an anomaly if it's bigger than 40 msecs if you clear
> all stats via cfs-debug-info-clear.sh and the large latencies appear
> after that. You can force it to go above 40 msecs if you run more than
> say 40 CPU hogs in parallel, so it's not "mathematical", but you should
> never see large latencies under normal workloads - and that includes
> almost everything but "insanely high" workloads.
Thank you for the explanation!
> and obviously, even if you only 'feel' long delays that's too an anomaly
> by definition, no matter what the scripts say about it. It might even be
> a scheduler anomaly as well: for example if the scheduler clock has an
> anomaly - on which the delay statistics are based too.
But if the scripts say all 'se.wait_max' are < 40 msecs than it is
not CFS' fault, right? Even if it takes 3 seconds for a typed letter
to appear in the terminal?
> generally, latencytop gives a pretty good idea about where app delays
> come from. (As a second-level mechanism, in sched-devel.git you can try
> the latency tracer.)
Yeah, I must try latencytop to check for more things before sending
an email reporting possible problems.
Thanks again!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-29 17:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-28 18:44 Carlos R. Mafra
2008-02-28 19:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-28 19:54 ` Ray Lee
[not found] ` <20080228210627.GA4337@localhost.ift.unesp.br>
2008-02-28 21:28 ` Ray Lee
2008-02-29 15:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-29 18:33 ` Ray Lee
2008-02-29 16:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-29 17:14 ` Carlos R. Mafra [this message]
2008-02-29 18:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-28 21:21 Carlos R. Mafra
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