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From: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen.c.accardi@intel.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
Cc: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, Alex Chiang <achiang@hp.com>,
Gary Hade <garyhade@us.ibm.com>,
kaneshige.kenji@jp.fujitsu.com, warthog19@eaglescrag.net,
rick.jones2@hp.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] ACPI PCI slot detection driver
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:12:35 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080304121235.468756d6@appleyard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080304193036.GB5534@suse.de>
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:30:36 -0800
Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:18:28AM -0800, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> > On Monday, March 03, 2008 9:49 pm Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 07:43:07AM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 09:25:42PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > > > > What is the guarantee that the names of these slots are
> > > > > correct and do not happen to be the same as the hotpluggable
> > > > > ones?
> > > >
> > > > That would be a bug -- and yes, bugs happen, and we have to
> > > > deal with them.
> > >
> > > My main concern is that BIOS vendors will not fix these bugs, as
> > > no other OS cares/does this kind of thing today. The ammount of
> > > bad information out there might be quite large, and I think this
> > > was confirmed by some initial testing of IBM systems, right?
> >
> > Yeah, but there's a flip side to this too: if no one uses the
> > data, no one will complain when it's wrong. If Linux starts making
> > it easy to see this stuff, there's a chance system vendors will
> > start taking an extra 5 min. before shipment to make sure that the
> > BIOS info is up to date...
> >
> > OTOH, I'm not sure which is worse, bad data or no data.
>
> bad data is worse.
>
> And then there's the machines with duplicate slot names, how does this
> code handle PCI slots with that? I think some of the IBM machines had
> non-hotplug slots named the same as the hotplug slots, right?
>
> This stuff needs a _lot_ of testing on a lot of different machines,
> and a sane way to fall-back if there are errors to ensure that working
> machines don't break.
>
> And then there's the issue with userspace programs only expecting
> hotplugable slots in the slots/ directory...
>
> thanks,
>
> greg k-h
>
I too worry about interaction with other vendor's machines, so maybe we
should make it easier to test by putting this series into linux-next?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-04 20:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-29 0:23 [PATCH 0/4, v7] PCI, ACPI: Physical PCI slot objects Alex Chiang
2008-02-29 0:26 ` [PATCH 1/4] Remove path attribute from sgi_hotplug Alex Chiang
2008-03-03 18:48 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-03-03 18:54 ` Prarit Bhargava
2008-03-05 0:19 ` Alex Chiang
2008-02-29 0:27 ` [PATCH 2/4] Construct one fakephp slot per pci slot Alex Chiang
2008-02-29 0:28 ` [PATCH 3/4] Introduce pci_slot Alex Chiang
2008-03-01 5:24 ` Greg KH
2008-03-03 20:56 ` Alex Chiang
2008-03-04 5:58 ` Greg KH
2008-03-04 23:30 ` [PATCH 3/4, v8] " Alex Chiang
2008-02-29 0:29 ` [PATCH 4/4] ACPI PCI slot detection driver Alex Chiang
2008-03-01 5:25 ` Greg KH
2008-03-01 14:43 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-04 5:49 ` Greg KH
2008-03-04 18:18 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-03-04 19:30 ` Greg KH
2008-03-04 20:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-03-04 20:12 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi [this message]
2008-03-04 23:09 ` Alex Chiang
2008-03-05 1:11 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2008-03-05 20:20 ` Alex Chiang
2008-03-05 20:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-06 2:07 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2008-03-11 13:10 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2008-03-11 13:13 ` [PATCH 3/(3+1)] " Kenji Kaneshige
2008-03-11 13:17 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2008-03-11 13:19 ` [PATCH 4/(3+1)] Add quirks for " Kenji Kaneshige
2008-03-11 13:28 ` [PATCH 4/4] " Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-11 16:56 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-03-12 5:51 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2008-03-12 4:08 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2008-03-11 18:04 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-03-11 19:14 ` Alex Chiang
2008-03-12 11:33 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2008-03-13 3:24 ` Alex Chiang
2008-03-14 2:16 ` Gary Hade
2008-03-14 5:34 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2008-03-18 20:49 ` Alex Chiang
2008-03-12 10:50 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2008-03-11 23:34 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-03-12 12:59 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2008-03-04 22:58 ` Alex Chiang
2008-03-04 23:15 ` Greg KH
2008-03-04 23:46 ` Alex Chiang
2008-03-01 5:12 ` [PATCH 0/4, v7] PCI, ACPI: Physical PCI slot objects Greg KH
2008-03-03 23:35 ` Alex Chiang
2008-03-04 5:56 ` Greg KH
2008-03-25 4:13 [PATCH 0/4, v11] " Alex Chiang
2008-03-25 4:17 ` [PATCH 4/4] ACPI PCI slot detection driver Alex Chiang
2008-03-25 4:50 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2008-03-25 17:09 [PATCH 0/4, v12] PCI, ACPI: Physical PCI slot objects Alex Chiang
2008-03-25 17:14 ` [PATCH 4/4] ACPI PCI slot detection driver Alex Chiang
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