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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Pierre Ossman <drzeus-list@drzeus.cx>
Cc: "Pallipadi, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Adam Belay <abelay@novell.com>, Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH] cpuidle: avoid singing capacitors
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:03:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080305090304.GA10053@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080305094023.6486ebdf@mjolnir.drzeus.cx>
On Wed 2008-03-05 09:40:23, Pierre Ossman wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:02:01 +0100
> Pierre Ossman <drzeus-list@drzeus.cx> wrote:
>
> >
> > I tried using predicted_us and last_measured_us, and those didn't work (see the #if 0 code in my last patch). And since cpuidle_get_last_residency() is part of predicted_us, I don't think it is reporting useful values.
> >
>
> I take this back. They might be working just fine. It seems I've been looking at a too small piece of the puzzle. This machine has a dual core processor, and the governors control each core independently. Unfortunately it's the power fluctuations of the entire socket that causes noise, not just each processor.
>
> So I need to build some global algorithm instead of one per core. Ideas are welcome.
>
> From what I can tell, disabling one core makes the noise go away. So I guess both cores need to go into C3 (or perhaps one C2 and one C3) at the same time to cause the problem. I'm not 100% sure of this as the damn noise comes and goes, but I've been running for an hour or so now with one core disabled and without my anti-noise patch.
>
Actually, there are more uncertaininties. Suspecting some machines
seemed to produce noise whenever they were in low-power state. Not
with fluctuations: when I forced them to low-power, it just produced
steady beep.
(Thinkpad 560X and toshiba 4030cdt, IIRC).
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-05 12:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-29 18:38 [RFC][PATCH] " Pierre Ossman
2008-02-29 21:44 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-03-01 12:31 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-01 13:40 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-02 2:27 ` Lee Revell
2008-03-02 14:17 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-03 12:36 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-03 20:18 ` [PATCH] " Pierre Ossman
2008-03-03 20:46 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-03 21:03 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-03 21:08 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-03 21:14 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-03-03 21:17 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-03 22:04 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-03-03 23:05 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-03-03 23:10 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-04 4:00 ` Dave Jones
2008-03-04 6:14 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-04 17:19 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-04 17:29 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-04 17:30 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-04 17:43 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-04 18:04 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-04 18:34 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-05 6:04 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-05 15:48 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-05 16:53 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-05 17:32 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-04 19:01 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-03-05 6:02 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-05 8:40 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-05 9:03 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2008-03-05 13:42 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-05 13:47 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-05 13:52 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-06 8:27 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-09 14:16 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-09 18:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-09 18:50 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-09 19:30 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-03-09 20:14 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-09 20:41 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-03-09 20:54 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-03-10 10:00 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-10 12:49 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-10 13:04 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-10 13:29 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-12 19:11 ` Len Brown
2008-03-13 8:10 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-13 10:42 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-14 4:13 ` Len Brown
2008-03-13 16:34 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-13 16:47 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-03-13 17:44 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-13 17:49 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-14 19:40 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-14 21:15 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-03-15 0:41 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-11 7:51 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-11 10:48 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-11 15:20 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-11 17:31 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-12 19:17 ` Len Brown
2008-03-12 20:31 ` Len Brown
2008-03-04 9:40 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-03 23:09 ` Andi Kleen
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