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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Carlos Corbacho <carlos@strangeworlds.co.uk>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>, Felix M?ller <fm@opensuse.org>,
Arthur Erhardt <erhardt@pit.physik.uni-tuebingen.de>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI PM: Restore the 2.6.24 suspend ordering
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:45:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080401084523.GA25278@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803301515.33922.rjw@sisk.pl>
Hi!
> > > > > For the reasons outlined above, the change of the suspend ordering
> > > > > should be reverted, which is done by the patch below.
> > > >
> > > > But this will break those few nvidia-based systems, no?
> > > >
> > > > this may have been a good idea in -rc1 days, but we are in -rc7
> > > > now... and the patch is slightly big.
> > >
> > > It's quite obvious, though.
> >
> > Yes, but breaking systems between -rc7 and final is _very_ unnice.
>
> Breaking systems between 2.6.24 and 2.6.25 is even worse, which is why
> I've posted this patch.
>
> IOW, we tried to fix systems that were broken with 2.6.24, but it didn't work,
> because our "fix" broke systems that were OK with 2.6.24. Solution: revert
> the "fix" and go back to the design board. That's all we can do so late in
> the release cycle, IMO.
Well, I agree that regression from 2.6.24 is worse, but it is
_slightly_ worse... -rcs are really expected to improve...
...plus it no longer looks like macbook regression is caused by _PTS
ordering?
> > > I think we _can_ do something about the failing NVidia systems in the 2.6.26
> > > time frame, but that will require some more consideration.
> >
> > We could simply blacklist them, no?
>
> Yes, but for this purpose we'll have to redesign the core so that everything
> (including debugging and the error paths) works if _PTS is executed before
> suspending devices. _That_, however, is not a 2.6.25 thing.
So we have solution that fixes 2.6.24 systems, makes system that
worked in 2.6.25-rc5 work with command line option, but gets error
handling wrong.
I guess we could use that?
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-01 8:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-30 1:19 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-30 11:18 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-30 11:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-30 12:28 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-30 13:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-01 8:45 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2008-04-01 14:38 ` Felix Möller
2008-04-01 19:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-02 13:00 ` Pavel Machek
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