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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Freezer: Don't count threads waiting for frozen filesystems.
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:37:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200810271237.40049.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1225106427.26724.5.camel@nigel-laptop>
On Monday, 27 of October 2008, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> Hi Miklos.
>
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 12:12 +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Saturday, 25 of October 2008, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > > > While working on freezing fuse filesystems, I found that if a filesystem
> > > > is frozen when we try to freeze processes, freezing can fail because
> > > > threads are waiting in vfs_check_frozen for the filesystem to be thawed.
> > > > We should thus not count such threads.
> > > >
> > > > The check will be safe if a filesystem is thawed while we're freezing
> > > > processes because filesystem thaws are only invoked from userspace. Any
> > > > waiting processes will be woken and frozen prior to us completing the
> > > > freezing of userspace (the caller invoking the filesystem thaw will be
> > > > freezing) or - in the worst case - together with kernel threads.
> >
> > The description is missing some details: why is the filesystem frozen
> > before suspend? AFAICS this can happen when DM calls bdev_freeze() on
> > the device before the task freezing begins. Is this the case?
>
> It doesn't matter why a process is sitting in that wait_event call. What
> does matter is that one can be there. In the case where I saw it, I was
> working on fuse freezing. I don't remember the details, as it's a year
> since I made this patch, but I don't think I wasn't using fuse or DM.
>
> > Also, while the patch might solve some of the symptoms of the fuse
> > vs. process freezer interaction, it will not fully fix that problem.
> > As such it's just a hack to hide the problem, making it less likely to
> > appear.
>
> No, it's part of the solution. I haven't posted the full fuse freezing
> patch because I thought this could be profitably merged without the rest
> of the patch.
Well, I guess it's better if you post the entire thing so that we can see
what the role of the $subject patch is in it, even if this patch finally gets
merged separately.
Thanks,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-27 11:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1224886068.6478.21.camel@nigel-laptop>
2008-10-26 20:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-27 11:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 11:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-27 11:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2008-10-27 11:40 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-27 12:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 20:59 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-27 21:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 22:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 20:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 21:29 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 21:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 22:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-28 22:02 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 22:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-28 23:21 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-29 8:10 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 13:51 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-29 14:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 15:28 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-29 15:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 16:17 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-29 16:10 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 20:37 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-29 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-29 21:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-29 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-29 23:53 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-09 13:44 ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-29 23:48 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 13:04 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-30 13:56 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-30 21:44 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-31 8:49 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-31 9:10 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-31 9:16 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-31 11:28 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-31 12:44 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-31 21:11 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-29 23:43 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 13:54 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-30 14:39 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 17:07 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-30 17:43 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 20:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-15 16:58 ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-29 23:56 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-28 22:03 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:04 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:17 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:24 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:41 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:54 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-27 11:37 ` Miklos Szeredi
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