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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jgarzik@pobox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] el3_common_init() should be __devinit, not __init
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 18:47:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081102184723.GE28946@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0811021008060.3483@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>

On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 10:13:03AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 1 Nov 2008, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> > 
> > For cpuinit/cpuexit the gain turned out to be minimal.
> 
> Quite frankly, I'm not convinced.
> 
> Yeah, yeah, most distro's end up always enabling CPU hotplug due to 
> suspend/resume, but:
> 
>  - desktop PC's aren't where most memory pressures are anyway
> 
>  - on UP, CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU isn't on even if you do have suspend/resume
> 
>  - we should still care about embedded devices, and while some of them are 
>    growing up (and having SMP and not caring about a few tens of kB of 
>    memory), I don't think that's a valid argument for the other ones.
> 
> So. I'd rather we try to keep our init sections, and continue to spend 
> effort on fixing them. If at all possible.

FWIW, I've tweaked that stuff yesterday for a while.  Results so far:
alpha, arm[*], s390, s390x, uml - all down to zero section conflicts;
amd64 (UP and SMP) - one conflict, and it looks like a real issue.
i386 - same + one false positive.
sparc32 - one potential real issue (cpuinit, BTW)
sparc64 - one conflict, again likely to be a real problem
m68k - 3 conflicts, one of them looking like a real bug
m32r - 4 conflicts, by the look of it boiling down to single misannotation
ppc, ppc64, ia64 - 7--10 conflicts on each, hadn't looked into them yet.

That - from one afternoon of hacking.  And I'm yet to look at ppc/ppc64/ia64;
I would be very surprised if these didn't have low-hanging fruits.

[*] 2 arm configs I have sitting around - didn't do all subarchitectures.

Now, what we *really* ought to do is taking that crap to sparse where it
really can be handled sanely, without "variable name ends on magical
string '_shp', so we won't complain about pointers to .init.text anywhere
in it" kind of "logics".

What we need is something along the lines of "->probe() in pci_driver
can be in .devinit.text and it can be called only if...".  Which is
much, _much_ easier for sparse to handle.  We need to figure out what
to do with *.S, but other than that... this is really not a job for
modpost.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-02 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-01 18:20 Al Viro
2008-11-01 19:12 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-11-01 19:16   ` Al Viro
2008-11-01 19:27     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-11-01 19:32       ` Al Viro
2008-11-01 21:17       ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-11-02 18:13         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-02 18:47           ` Al Viro [this message]
2008-11-02 20:31           ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-11-06  5:42 ` Jeff Garzik

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