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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, rientjes@google.com, npiggin@suse.de,
	menage@google.com, dfults@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	containers@lists.osdl.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/7] cpuset writeback throttling
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:36:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081104153610.bbfd5ed8.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0811041648350.6254@quilx.com>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:52:48 -0600 (CST)
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > To fix this with a memcg-based throttling, the operator would need to
> > be able to create memcg's which have pages only from particular nodes.
> > (That's a bit indirect relative to what they want to do, but is
> > presumably workable).
> 
> The system would need to have the capability to find the memcg groups that 
> have dirty pages for a certain inode. Files are not constrained to nodes 
> or memcg groups.

Ah, we're talking about different things.

In a memcg implementation what we would implement is "throttle
page-dirtying tasks in this memcg when the memcg's dirty memory reaches
40% of its total".

But that doesn't solve the problem which this patchset is trying to
solve, which is "don't let all the memory in all this group of nodes
get dirty".


Yes?  Someone help me out here.  I don't yet have my head around the
overlaps and incompatibilities here.  Perhaps the containers guys will
wake up and put their thinking caps on?



What happens if cpuset A uses nodes 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 and cpuset B
uses nodes 0,1?  Can activity in cpuset A cause ooms in cpuset B?


  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-04 23:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-30 19:23 David Rientjes
2008-10-30 19:23 ` [patch 1/7] cpusets: add dirty map to struct address_space David Rientjes
2008-11-04 21:09   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-04 21:20     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-04 21:42       ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-30 19:23 ` [patch 2/7] pdflush: allow the passing of a nodemask parameter David Rientjes
2008-10-30 19:23 ` [patch 3/7] mm: make page writeback obey cpuset constraints David Rientjes
2008-10-30 19:23 ` [patch 4/7] mm: cpuset aware reclaim writeout David Rientjes
2008-10-30 19:23 ` [patch 5/7] mm: throttle writeout with cpuset awareness David Rientjes
2008-10-30 19:23 ` [patch 6/7] cpusets: per cpuset dirty ratios David Rientjes
2008-10-30 19:23 ` [patch 7/7] cpusets: update documentation for writeback throttling David Rientjes
2008-10-30 21:08 ` [patch 0/7] cpuset " Dave Chinner
2008-10-30 21:33   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-30 22:03     ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-31 13:47       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-31 16:36       ` David Rientjes
2008-11-04 20:47 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-04 20:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-04 20:58     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-04 21:10     ` David Rientjes
2008-11-04 21:16     ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-04 21:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-04 21:50         ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-04 22:17           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-04 22:35             ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-04 22:52               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-04 23:36                 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-11-05  1:31                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-05  3:09                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-05  2:45                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-05  3:05                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-05  4:31                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-10  9:02                         ` Andrea Righi
2008-11-10 10:02                           ` David Rientjes
2008-11-05 13:52                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-05 18:41                         ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-05 20:21                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-05 20:31                             ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-05 20:40                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-05 20:56                                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-05 21:28                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-05 21:55                                   ` Paul Menage
2008-11-05 22:04                                   ` David Rientjes
2008-11-06  1:34                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 20:35                                       ` David Rientjes

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