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* Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
@ 2008-11-09 20:28 Tino Keitel
  2008-11-09 20:34 ` [stable] " Greg KH
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Tino Keitel @ 2008-11-09 20:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, stable

Hi,

my Mac mini Core Duo doesn't wake up from suspend to RAM anymore with
2.6.27.4. It works with 2.6.27.3. I enabled pm_trace, but dmesg | grep
"hash matches" didn't show anything after resume. I tried 2.6.27.5,
which also failed to resume.

The system is i386, the hardware is basically Intel based: Core Duo
T2300 CPU, Intel graphics i945, ICH7, Marvell GbE (sky2), a SATA hard
disk, PATA DVD drive, a Firewire hard disk, and a lot of USB devices.

Does that ring any bells? Any hints what commit I should try to revert?

Regards,
Tino

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* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-09 20:28 Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo Tino Keitel
@ 2008-11-09 20:34 ` Greg KH
  2008-11-09 20:51   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Greg KH @ 2008-11-09 20:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, stable

On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:28:30PM +0100, Tino Keitel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> my Mac mini Core Duo doesn't wake up from suspend to RAM anymore with
> 2.6.27.4. It works with 2.6.27.3. I enabled pm_trace, but dmesg | grep
> "hash matches" didn't show anything after resume. I tried 2.6.27.5,
> which also failed to resume.
> 
> The system is i386, the hardware is basically Intel based: Core Duo
> T2300 CPU, Intel graphics i945, ICH7, Marvell GbE (sky2), a SATA hard
> disk, PATA DVD drive, a Firewire hard disk, and a lot of USB devices.
> 
> Does that ring any bells? Any hints what commit I should try to revert?

Can you run 'git bisect' on the patches in 2.6.27.4 to see which one
broke your box?

thanks,

greg k-h

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread

* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-09 20:34 ` [stable] " Greg KH
@ 2008-11-09 20:51   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2008-11-10 23:30     ` Tino Keitel
  2008-11-11  6:56     ` Tino Keitel
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2008-11-09 20:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tino Keitel; +Cc: Greg KH, linux-kernel, stable

On Sunday, 9 of November 2008, Greg KH wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:28:30PM +0100, Tino Keitel wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > my Mac mini Core Duo doesn't wake up from suspend to RAM anymore with
> > 2.6.27.4. It works with 2.6.27.3. I enabled pm_trace, but dmesg | grep
> > "hash matches" didn't show anything after resume. I tried 2.6.27.5,
> > which also failed to resume.
> > 
> > The system is i386, the hardware is basically Intel based: Core Duo
> > T2300 CPU, Intel graphics i945, ICH7, Marvell GbE (sky2), a SATA hard
> > disk, PATA DVD drive, a Firewire hard disk, and a lot of USB devices.
> > 
> > Does that ring any bells? Any hints what commit I should try to revert?
> 
> Can you run 'git bisect' on the patches in 2.6.27.4 to see which one
> broke your box?

I would start from these commits:

3b987ac961486373f91191b14291b331fa546072
"ACPI suspend: Always use the 32-bit waking vector"

66036f5862883fcc9f7ff8550685a5a3de1a57e4
"ACPI Suspend: Enable ACPI during resume if SCI_EN is not set"

If none of them causes this problem to happen, I have no idea what can, so
please bisect in this case.

If any of them breaks suspend for you, we'd have to find out why, because
both of them are rather important bug fixes.

Thanks,
Rafael

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* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-09 20:51   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2008-11-10 23:30     ` Tino Keitel
  2008-11-11  6:56     ` Tino Keitel
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Tino Keitel @ 2008-11-10 23:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, stable

On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 21:51:57 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Sunday, 9 of November 2008, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:28:30PM +0100, Tino Keitel wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > my Mac mini Core Duo doesn't wake up from suspend to RAM anymore with
> > > 2.6.27.4. It works with 2.6.27.3. I enabled pm_trace, but dmesg | grep
> > > "hash matches" didn't show anything after resume. I tried 2.6.27.5,
> > > which also failed to resume.
> > > 
> > > The system is i386, the hardware is basically Intel based: Core Duo
> > > T2300 CPU, Intel graphics i945, ICH7, Marvell GbE (sky2), a SATA hard
> > > disk, PATA DVD drive, a Firewire hard disk, and a lot of USB devices.
> > > 
> > > Does that ring any bells? Any hints what commit I should try to revert?
> > 
> > Can you run 'git bisect' on the patches in 2.6.27.4 to see which one
> > broke your box?
> 
> I would start from these commits:
> 
> 3b987ac961486373f91191b14291b331fa546072
> "ACPI suspend: Always use the 32-bit waking vector"
> 
> 66036f5862883fcc9f7ff8550685a5a3de1a57e4
> "ACPI Suspend: Enable ACPI during resume if SCI_EN is not set"

Thanks Rafael, 2.6.27.5 with 66036f5862883fcc9f7ff8550685a5a3de1a57e4
reverted resumes fine.

Regards,
Tino

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread

* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-09 20:51   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2008-11-10 23:30     ` Tino Keitel
@ 2008-11-11  6:56     ` Tino Keitel
  2008-11-11 14:16       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Tino Keitel @ 2008-11-11  6:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, stable, Greg KH, Rafael J. Wysocki

On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 21:51:57 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Sunday, 9 of November 2008, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:28:30PM +0100, Tino Keitel wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > my Mac mini Core Duo doesn't wake up from suspend to RAM anymore with
> > > 2.6.27.4. It works with 2.6.27.3. I enabled pm_trace, but dmesg | grep
> > > "hash matches" didn't show anything after resume. I tried 2.6.27.5,
> > > which also failed to resume.
> > > 
> > > The system is i386, the hardware is basically Intel based: Core Duo
> > > T2300 CPU, Intel graphics i945, ICH7, Marvell GbE (sky2), a SATA hard
> > > disk, PATA DVD drive, a Firewire hard disk, and a lot of USB devices.
> > > 
> > > Does that ring any bells? Any hints what commit I should try to revert?
> > 
> > Can you run 'git bisect' on the patches in 2.6.27.4 to see which one
> > broke your box?
> 
> I would start from these commits:
> 
> 3b987ac961486373f91191b14291b331fa546072
> "ACPI suspend: Always use the 32-bit waking vector"
> 
> 66036f5862883fcc9f7ff8550685a5a3de1a57e4
> "ACPI Suspend: Enable ACPI during resume if SCI_EN is not set"

Thanks Rafael, 2.6.27.5 with 66036f5862883fcc9f7ff8550685a5a3de1a57e4
reverted resumes fine.

Regards,
Tino
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* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-11  6:56     ` Tino Keitel
@ 2008-11-11 14:16       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2008-11-11 18:19         ` Tino Keitel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2008-11-11 14:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tino Keitel; +Cc: linux-kernel, stable, Greg KH

On Tuesday, 11 of November 2008, Tino Keitel wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 21:51:57 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Sunday, 9 of November 2008, Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:28:30PM +0100, Tino Keitel wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > my Mac mini Core Duo doesn't wake up from suspend to RAM anymore with
> > > > 2.6.27.4. It works with 2.6.27.3. I enabled pm_trace, but dmesg | grep
> > > > "hash matches" didn't show anything after resume. I tried 2.6.27.5,
> > > > which also failed to resume.
> > > > 
> > > > The system is i386, the hardware is basically Intel based: Core Duo
> > > > T2300 CPU, Intel graphics i945, ICH7, Marvell GbE (sky2), a SATA hard
> > > > disk, PATA DVD drive, a Firewire hard disk, and a lot of USB devices.
> > > > 
> > > > Does that ring any bells? Any hints what commit I should try to revert?
> > > 
> > > Can you run 'git bisect' on the patches in 2.6.27.4 to see which one
> > > broke your box?
> > 
> > I would start from these commits:
> > 
> > 3b987ac961486373f91191b14291b331fa546072
> > "ACPI suspend: Always use the 32-bit waking vector"
> > 
> > 66036f5862883fcc9f7ff8550685a5a3de1a57e4
> > "ACPI Suspend: Enable ACPI during resume if SCI_EN is not set"
> 
> Thanks Rafael, 2.6.27.5 with 66036f5862883fcc9f7ff8550685a5a3de1a57e4
> reverted resumes fine.

This really is not a good news, because this commit evidently fixes at least
several systems.

First, let's try to remove things that we shouldn't be doing.

Please apply the patch below to 2.6.27.5 without reverting that commit and see
if that works.

Thanks,
Rafael

---
 drivers/acpi/pci_link.c |    4 ----
 1 file changed, 4 deletions(-)

Index: linux-2.6/drivers/acpi/pci_link.c
===================================================================
--- linux-2.6.orig/drivers/acpi/pci_link.c
+++ linux-2.6/drivers/acpi/pci_link.c
@@ -796,10 +796,6 @@ static int irqrouter_resume(struct sys_d
 	struct list_head *node = NULL;
 	struct acpi_pci_link *link = NULL;
 
-
-	/* Make sure SCI is enabled again (Apple firmware bug?) */
-	acpi_set_register(ACPI_BITREG_SCI_ENABLE, 1);
-
 	list_for_each(node, &acpi_link.entries) {
 		link = list_entry(node, struct acpi_pci_link, node);
 		if (!link) {

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* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-11 14:16       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2008-11-11 18:19         ` Tino Keitel
  2008-11-11 23:48           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Tino Keitel @ 2008-11-11 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki; +Cc: linux-kernel, stable, Greg KH

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 15:16:08 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

[...]

> This really is not a good news, because this commit evidently fixes at least
> several systems.
> 
> First, let's try to remove things that we shouldn't be doing.
> 
> Please apply the patch below to 2.6.27.5 without reverting that commit and see
> if that works.

It doesn't work. 2.6.27.5 with the patch applied hangs at resume.

Regards,
Tino

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread

* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-11 18:19         ` Tino Keitel
@ 2008-11-11 23:48           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2008-11-12  0:03             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2008-11-12  6:24             ` Tino Keitel
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2008-11-11 23:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tino Keitel
  Cc: linux-kernel, stable, Greg KH, ACPI Devel Maling List, Len Brown

On Tuesday, 11 of November 2008, Tino Keitel wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 15:16:08 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > This really is not a good news, because this commit evidently fixes at least
> > several systems.
> > 
> > First, let's try to remove things that we shouldn't be doing.
> > 
> > Please apply the patch below to 2.6.27.5 without reverting that commit and see
> > if that works.
> 
> It doesn't work. 2.6.27.5 with the patch applied hangs at resume.

Well, this appears to be a broken BIOS thing.  Perhaps we'll have to blacklist
the box or something.

Is there any possibility to get some information about where exactly it hangs?

Rafael

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread

* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-11 23:48           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2008-11-12  0:03             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2008-11-12  7:36               ` Tino Keitel
  2008-11-12  6:24             ` Tino Keitel
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2008-11-12  0:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tino Keitel
  Cc: linux-kernel, stable, Greg KH, ACPI Devel Maling List, Len Brown

On Wednesday, 12 of November 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, 11 of November 2008, Tino Keitel wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 15:16:08 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > This really is not a good news, because this commit evidently fixes at least
> > > several systems.
> > > 
> > > First, let's try to remove things that we shouldn't be doing.
> > > 
> > > Please apply the patch below to 2.6.27.5 without reverting that commit and see
> > > if that works.
> > 
> > It doesn't work. 2.6.27.5 with the patch applied hangs at resume.
> 
> Well, this appears to be a broken BIOS thing.  Perhaps we'll have to blacklist
> the box or something.
> 
> Is there any possibility to get some information about where exactly it hangs?

Also, can you check this patch on top of 2.6.27.4 and see what happens?

Rafael

---
 drivers/acpi/pci_link.c   |    4 ----
 drivers/acpi/sleep/main.c |    3 ++-
 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

Index: linux-2.6/drivers/acpi/pci_link.c
===================================================================
--- linux-2.6.orig/drivers/acpi/pci_link.c
+++ linux-2.6/drivers/acpi/pci_link.c
@@ -796,10 +796,6 @@ static int irqrouter_resume(struct sys_d
 	struct list_head *node = NULL;
 	struct acpi_pci_link *link = NULL;
 
-
-	/* Make sure SCI is enabled again (Apple firmware bug?) */
-	acpi_set_register(ACPI_BITREG_SCI_ENABLE, 1);
-
 	list_for_each(node, &acpi_link.entries) {
 		link = list_entry(node, struct acpi_pci_link, node);
 		if (!link) {
Index: linux-2.6/drivers/acpi/sleep/main.c
===================================================================
--- linux-2.6.orig/drivers/acpi/sleep/main.c
+++ linux-2.6/drivers/acpi/sleep/main.c
@@ -249,7 +249,8 @@ static int acpi_suspend_enter(suspend_st
 	}
 
 	/* If ACPI is not enabled by the BIOS, we need to enable it here. */
-	acpi_enable();
+	acpi_set_register(ACPI_BITREG_SCI_ENABLE, 1);
+	/*acpi_enable();*/
 	/* Reprogram control registers and execute _BFS */
 	acpi_leave_sleep_state_prep(acpi_state);
 

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* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-11 23:48           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2008-11-12  0:03             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2008-11-12  6:24             ` Tino Keitel
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Tino Keitel @ 2008-11-12  6:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki
  Cc: linux-kernel, stable, Greg KH, ACPI Devel Maling List, Len Brown

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 00:48:06 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

[...]

> Is there any possibility to get some information about where exactly
> it hangs?

Any idea how to do this? I already tried pm_trace, and there isn't a
serial interface. The screen is black when it hangs.

Regards,
Tino

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread

* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-12  0:03             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2008-11-12  7:36               ` Tino Keitel
  2008-11-12 21:41                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Tino Keitel @ 2008-11-12  7:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki
  Cc: linux-kernel, stable, Greg KH, ACPI Devel Maling List, Len Brown

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:03:54 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

[...]

> Also, can you check this patch on top of 2.6.27.4 and see what happens?

With that patch, resume works (although I used 2.6.27.5 and not
2.6.27.5, if that matters).

Regards,
Tino

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread

* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-12  7:36               ` Tino Keitel
@ 2008-11-12 21:41                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2008-11-13 19:26                   ` Tino Keitel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2008-11-12 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tino Keitel
  Cc: linux-kernel, stable, Greg KH, ACPI Devel Maling List, Len Brown

On Wednesday, 12 of November 2008, Tino Keitel wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:03:54 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Also, can you check this patch on top of 2.6.27.4 and see what happens?
> 
> With that patch, resume works (although I used 2.6.27.5 and not
> 2.6.27.5, if that matters).

It shouldn't really matter.

Thanks for testing and please send me the output of dmidecode.
It seems that blacklisting may be the only way to handle your box. :-(

Thanks,
Rafael

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread

* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-12 21:41                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2008-11-13 19:26                   ` Tino Keitel
  2008-11-13 22:18                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Tino Keitel @ 2008-11-13 19:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki
  Cc: linux-kernel, stable, Greg KH, ACPI Devel Maling List, Len Brown

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 593 bytes --]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 22:41:08 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, 12 of November 2008, Tino Keitel wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:03:54 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > Also, can you check this patch on top of 2.6.27.4 and see what happens?
> > 
> > With that patch, resume works (although I used 2.6.27.5 and not
> > 2.6.27.5, if that matters).
> 
> It shouldn't really matter.
> 
> Thanks for testing and please send me the output of dmidecode.
> It seems that blacklisting may be the only way to handle your box. :-(

Attached.

Regards,
Tino

[-- Attachment #2: dmidecode --]
[-- Type: text/plain, Size: 10684 bytes --]

# dmidecode 2.9
SMBIOS 2.4 present.
39 structures occupying 1542 bytes.
Table at 0x000E73F0.

Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 24 bytes
BIOS Information
	Vendor: Apple Computer, Inc.
	Version:     MM11.88Z.0055.B08.0610121326
	Release Date: 10/12/06
	ROM Size: 2048 kB
	Characteristics:
		PCI is supported
		BIOS is upgradeable
		BIOS shadowing is allowed
		Boot from CD is supported
		Selectable boot is supported
		ACPI is supported
		IEEE 1394 boot is supported
		Smart battery is supported
		Function key-initiated network boot is supported
	BIOS Revision: 0.1

Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
System Information
	Manufacturer: Apple Computer, Inc.
	Product Name: Macmini1,1
	Version: 1.0
	Serial Number: XXX
	UUID: XXX
	Wake-up Type: Power Switch
	SKU Number: System SKUNumber
	Family: Napa Mac

Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 16 bytes
Base Board Information
	Manufacturer: Apple Computer, Inc.
	Product Name: Mac-F4208EC8
	Version: PVT
	Serial Number: 1
	Asset Tag: Base Board Asset Tag
	Features:
		Board is a hosting board
		Board is replaceable
	Location In Chassis: Part Component
	Chassis Handle: 0x0003
	Type: Unknown
	Contained Object Handles: 0

Handle 0x0003, DMI type 3, 21 bytes
Chassis Information
	Manufacturer: Apple Computer, Inc.
	Type: Low Profile Desktop
	Lock: Not Present
	Version: Mac-F4208EC8
	Serial Number: XXX
	Asset Tag: Asset Tag
	Boot-up State: Safe
	Power Supply State: Safe
	Thermal State: Other
	Security Status: Other
	OEM Information: 0x00000000
	Height: Unspecified
	Number Of Power Cords: Unspecified
	Contained Elements: 0

Handle 0x0004, DMI type 32, 20 bytes
System Boot Information
	Status: No errors detected

Handle 0x0005, DMI type 13, 22 bytes
BIOS Language Information
	Installable Languages: 1
		<BAD INDEX>
	Currently Installed Language: Not Specified

Handle 0x0106, DMI type 12, 5 bytes
System Configuration Options

Handle 0x0107, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
	Internal Reference Designator: None
	Internal Connector Type: None
	External Reference Designator: Ethernet
	External Connector Type: RJ-45
	Port Type: Network Port

Handle 0x0108, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
	Internal Reference Designator: None
	Internal Connector Type: None
	External Reference Designator: DVI
	External Connector Type: Other
	Port Type: Video Port

Handle 0x0109, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
	Internal Reference Designator: None
	Internal Connector Type: None
	External Reference Designator: USB0
	External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
	Port Type: USB

Handle 0x010A, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
	Internal Reference Designator: None
	Internal Connector Type: None
	External Reference Designator: USB1
	External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
	Port Type: USB

Handle 0x010B, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
	Internal Reference Designator: None
	Internal Connector Type: None
	External Reference Designator: USB2
	External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
	Port Type: USB

Handle 0x010C, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
	Internal Reference Designator: None
	Internal Connector Type: None
	External Reference Designator: USB3
	External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
	Port Type: USB

Handle 0x010D, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
	Internal Reference Designator: None
	Internal Connector Type: None
	External Reference Designator: FireWire0
	External Connector Type: IEEE 1394
	Port Type: Firewire (IEEE P1394)

Handle 0x010E, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
	Internal Reference Designator: None
	Internal Connector Type: None
	External Reference Designator: iPod Dock
	External Connector Type: Other
	Port Type: Other

Handle 0x010F, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
	Internal Reference Designator: None
	Internal Connector Type: None
	External Reference Designator: Audio Line In
	External Connector Type: Mini Jack (headphones)
	Port Type: Audio Port

Handle 0x0110, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
	Internal Reference Designator: None
	Internal Connector Type: None
	External Reference Designator: Audio Line Out
	External Connector Type: Mini Jack (headphones)
	Port Type: Audio Port

Handle 0x0111, DMI type 9, 13 bytes
System Slot Information
	Designation: AirPort
	Type: x1 PCI Express
	Current Usage: Available
	Length: Short
	ID: 2
	Characteristics:
		3.3 V is provided
		Hot-plug devices are supported
		SMBus signal is supported

Handle 0x0112, DMI type 10, 6 bytes
On Board Device Information
	Type: Video
	Status: Enabled
	Description: Integrated Graphics Controller 

Handle 0x0113, DMI type 10, 6 bytes
On Board Device Information
	Type: Ethernet
	Status: Enabled
	Description: Yukon Ethernet Controller

Handle 0x0114, DMI type 10, 6 bytes
On Board Device Information
	Type: Sound
	Status: Enabled
	Description: Azalia Audio Codec

Handle 0x0115, DMI type 10, 6 bytes
On Board Device Information
	Type: Other
	Status: Enabled
	Description: SATA

Handle 0x0116, DMI type 10, 6 bytes
On Board Device Information
	Type: Other
	Status: Enabled
	Description: PATA

Handle 0x0117, DMI type 136, 6 bytes
OEM-specific Type
	Header and Data:
		88 06 17 01 00 00

Handle 0x0118, DMI type 4, 35 bytes
Processor Information
	Socket Designation: U2E1
	Type: Central Processor
	Family: Unknown
	Manufacturer: Intel(R) Corporation
	ID: E8 06 00 00 FF FB E9 BF
	Version: Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T
	Voltage: 1.6 V
	External Clock: 166 MHz
	Max Speed: 1660 MHz
	Current Speed: 1660 MHz
	Status: Populated, Enabled
	Upgrade: ZIF Socket
	L1 Cache Handle: 0x011B
	L2 Cache Handle: 0x0119
	L3 Cache Handle: Not Provided
	Serial Number: Not Specified
	Asset Tag: Unknown
	Part Number: Not Specified

Handle 0x0119, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
	Socket Designation: Unknown
	Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 2
	Operational Mode: Write Back
	Location: Internal
	Installed Size: 2048 KB
	Maximum Size: 2048 KB
	Supported SRAM Types:
		Asynchronous
	Installed SRAM Type: Asynchronous
	Speed: Unknown
	Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
	System Type: Unified
	Associativity: 8-way Set-associative

Handle 0x011A, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
	Socket Designation: Unknown
	Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 1
	Operational Mode: Write Back
	Location: Internal
	Installed Size: 32 KB
	Maximum Size: 32 KB
	Supported SRAM Types:
		Asynchronous
	Installed SRAM Type: Asynchronous
	Speed: Unknown
	Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
	System Type: Instruction
	Associativity: 8-way Set-associative

Handle 0x011B, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
	Socket Designation: Unknown
	Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 1
	Operational Mode: Write Back
	Location: Internal
	Installed Size: 32 KB
	Maximum Size: 32 KB
	Supported SRAM Types:
		Asynchronous
	Installed SRAM Type: Asynchronous
	Speed: Unknown
	Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
	System Type: Data
	Associativity: 8-way Set-associative

Handle 0x011C, DMI type 4, 35 bytes
Processor Information
	Socket Designation: U2E1
	Type: Central Processor
	Family: Unknown
	Manufacturer: Intel(R) Corporation
	ID: E8 06 00 00 FF FB E9 BF
	Version: Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T
	Voltage: 1.6 V
	External Clock: 166 MHz
	Max Speed: 1660 MHz
	Current Speed: 1660 MHz
	Status: Populated, Enabled
	Upgrade: ZIF Socket
	L1 Cache Handle: 0x011F
	L2 Cache Handle: 0x011D
	L3 Cache Handle: Not Provided
	Serial Number: Not Specified
	Asset Tag: Unknown
	Part Number: Not Specified

Handle 0x011D, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
	Socket Designation: Unknown
	Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 2
	Operational Mode: Write Back
	Location: Internal
	Installed Size: 2048 KB
	Maximum Size: 2048 KB
	Supported SRAM Types:
		Asynchronous
	Installed SRAM Type: Asynchronous
	Speed: Unknown
	Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
	System Type: Unified
	Associativity: 8-way Set-associative

Handle 0x011E, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
	Socket Designation: Unknown
	Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 1
	Operational Mode: Write Back
	Location: Internal
	Installed Size: 32 KB
	Maximum Size: 32 KB
	Supported SRAM Types:
		Asynchronous
	Installed SRAM Type: Asynchronous
	Speed: Unknown
	Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
	System Type: Instruction
	Associativity: 8-way Set-associative

Handle 0x011F, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
	Socket Designation: Unknown
	Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 1
	Operational Mode: Write Back
	Location: Internal
	Installed Size: 32 KB
	Maximum Size: 32 KB
	Supported SRAM Types:
		Asynchronous
	Installed SRAM Type: Asynchronous
	Speed: Unknown
	Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
	System Type: Data
	Associativity: 8-way Set-associative

Handle 0x0120, DMI type 16, 15 bytes
Physical Memory Array
	Location: System Board Or Motherboard
	Use: System Memory
	Error Correction Type: None
	Maximum Capacity: 4 GB
	Error Information Handle: Not Provided
	Number Of Devices: 2

Handle 0x0121, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
Memory Device
	Array Handle: 0x0120
	Error Information Handle: Not Provided
	Total Width: 64 bits
	Data Width: 64 bits
	Size: 512 MB
	Form Factor: DIMM
	Set: None
	Locator: DIMM0
	Bank Locator: BANK 0
	Type: DDR2
	Type Detail: Synchronous
	Speed: 667 MHz (1.5 ns)
	Manufacturer: 0xAD00000000000000
	Serial Number: 0x00006201
	Asset Tag: Unknown
	Part Number: 0x48594D503536345336344350362D59352020

Handle 0x0122, DMI type 20, 19 bytes
Memory Device Mapped Address
	Starting Address: 0x00000000000
	Ending Address: 0x0001FFFFFFF
	Range Size: 512 MB
	Physical Device Handle: 0x0121
	Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x0125
	Partition Row Position: 1
	Interleave Position: 1
	Interleaved Data Depth: 1

Handle 0x0123, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
Memory Device
	Array Handle: 0x0120
	Error Information Handle: Not Provided
	Total Width: 64 bits
	Data Width: 64 bits
	Size: 512 MB
	Form Factor: DIMM
	Set: None
	Locator: DIMM1
	Bank Locator: BANK 1
	Type: DDR2
	Type Detail: Synchronous
	Speed: 667 MHz (1.5 ns)
	Manufacturer: 0x2CFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
	Serial Number: 0x49191A8B
	Asset Tag: Unknown
	Part Number: 0x38485446363436344844592D363637423320

Handle 0x0124, DMI type 20, 19 bytes
Memory Device Mapped Address
	Starting Address: 0x00020000000
	Ending Address: 0x0003FFFFFFF
	Range Size: 512 MB
	Physical Device Handle: 0x0123
	Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x0125
	Partition Row Position: 2
	Interleave Position: 2
	Interleaved Data Depth: 1

Handle 0x0125, DMI type 19, 15 bytes
Memory Array Mapped Address
	Starting Address: 0x00000000000
	Ending Address: 0x0003FFFFFFF
	Range Size: 1 GB
	Physical Array Handle: 0x0120
	Partition Width: 0

Handle 0xFFFD, DMI type 127, 4 bytes
End Of Table


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* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-13 19:26                   ` Tino Keitel
@ 2008-11-13 22:18                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2008-11-15 23:04                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2008-11-13 22:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tino Keitel
  Cc: linux-kernel, stable, Greg KH, ACPI Devel Maling List, Len Brown,
	Bob Copeland

On Thursday, 13 of November 2008, Tino Keitel wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 22:41:08 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 12 of November 2008, Tino Keitel wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:03:54 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > > Also, can you check this patch on top of 2.6.27.4 and see what happens?
> > > 
> > > With that patch, resume works (although I used 2.6.27.5 and not
> > > 2.6.27.5, if that matters).
> > 
> > It shouldn't really matter.
> > 
> > Thanks for testing and please send me the output of dmidecode.
> > It seems that blacklisting may be the only way to handle your box. :-(
> 
> Attached.

Please try the appended patch on top of the Linus' tree.

Thanks,
Rafael

---
 drivers/acpi/sleep/main.c |   40 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
 1 file changed, 39 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

Index: linux-2.6/drivers/acpi/sleep/main.c
===================================================================
--- linux-2.6.orig/drivers/acpi/sleep/main.c
+++ linux-2.6/drivers/acpi/sleep/main.c
@@ -104,6 +104,18 @@ void __init acpi_s4_no_nvs(void)
 	s4_no_nvs = true;
 }
 
+/*
+ * According to the ACPI specification the BIOS should make sure that ACPI is
+ * enabled and SCI_EN bit is set on wake-up from S1 - S3 sleep states.  Still,
+ * some BIOSes don't do that and therefore we use acpi_enable() to enable ACPI
+ * on such systems during resume.  Unfortunately that doesn't help in
+ * particularly pathological cases in which SCI_EN has to be set directly on
+ * resume, although the specification states very clearly that this flag is
+ * owned by the hardware.  The set_sci_en_on_resume variable will be set in such
+ * cases.
+ */
+static bool set_sci_en_on_resume;
+
 /**
  *	acpi_pm_disable_gpes - Disable the GPEs.
  */
@@ -249,7 +261,11 @@ static int acpi_suspend_enter(suspend_st
 	}
 
 	/* If ACPI is not enabled by the BIOS, we need to enable it here. */
-	acpi_enable();
+	if (set_sci_en_on_resume)
+		acpi_set_register(ACPI_BITREG_SCI_ENABLE, 1);
+	else
+		acpi_enable();
+
 	/* Reprogram control registers and execute _BFS */
 	acpi_leave_sleep_state_prep(acpi_state);
 
@@ -337,6 +353,12 @@ static int __init init_old_suspend_order
 	return 0;
 }
 
+static int __init init_set_sci_en_on_resume(const struct dmi_system_id *d)
+{
+	set_sci_en_on_resume = true;
+	return 0;
+}
+
 static struct dmi_system_id __initdata acpisleep_dmi_table[] = {
 	{
 	.callback = init_old_suspend_ordering,
@@ -354,6 +376,22 @@ static struct dmi_system_id __initdata a
 		DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "HP xw4600 Workstation"),
 		},
 	},
+	{
+	.callback = init_set_sci_en_on_resume,
+	.ident = "Apple MacBook 1,1",
+	.matches = {
+		DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, "Apple Computer, Inc."),
+		DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "MacBook1,1"),
+		},
+	},
+	{
+	.callback = init_set_sci_en_on_resume,
+	.ident = "Apple MacMini 1,1",
+	.matches = {
+		DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, "Apple Computer, Inc."),
+		DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "Macmini1,1"),
+		},
+	},
 	{},
 };
 #endif /* CONFIG_SUSPEND */

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread

* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-13 22:18                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2008-11-15 23:04                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2008-11-16 20:27                         ` Bob Copeland
  2008-12-08  7:55                         ` Tino Keitel
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2008-11-15 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tino Keitel
  Cc: linux-kernel, stable, Greg KH, ACPI Devel Maling List, Len Brown,
	Bob Copeland

On Thursday, 13 of November 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, 13 of November 2008, Tino Keitel wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 22:41:08 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, 12 of November 2008, Tino Keitel wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:03:54 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > > Also, can you check this patch on top of 2.6.27.4 and see what happens?
> > > > 
> > > > With that patch, resume works (although I used 2.6.27.5 and not
> > > > 2.6.27.5, if that matters).
> > > 
> > > It shouldn't really matter.
> > > 
> > > Thanks for testing and please send me the output of dmidecode.
> > > It seems that blacklisting may be the only way to handle your box. :-(
> > 
> > Attached.
> 
> Please try the appended patch on top of the Linus' tree.

This patch also applies to current -stable, so you can test it on top of that.

I need your confirmation that the patch works to push it upstream.

Thanks,
Rafael


> ---
>  drivers/acpi/sleep/main.c |   40 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>  1 file changed, 39 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> Index: linux-2.6/drivers/acpi/sleep/main.c
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-2.6.orig/drivers/acpi/sleep/main.c
> +++ linux-2.6/drivers/acpi/sleep/main.c
> @@ -104,6 +104,18 @@ void __init acpi_s4_no_nvs(void)
>  	s4_no_nvs = true;
>  }
>  
> +/*
> + * According to the ACPI specification the BIOS should make sure that ACPI is
> + * enabled and SCI_EN bit is set on wake-up from S1 - S3 sleep states.  Still,
> + * some BIOSes don't do that and therefore we use acpi_enable() to enable ACPI
> + * on such systems during resume.  Unfortunately that doesn't help in
> + * particularly pathological cases in which SCI_EN has to be set directly on
> + * resume, although the specification states very clearly that this flag is
> + * owned by the hardware.  The set_sci_en_on_resume variable will be set in such
> + * cases.
> + */
> +static bool set_sci_en_on_resume;
> +
>  /**
>   *	acpi_pm_disable_gpes - Disable the GPEs.
>   */
> @@ -249,7 +261,11 @@ static int acpi_suspend_enter(suspend_st
>  	}
>  
>  	/* If ACPI is not enabled by the BIOS, we need to enable it here. */
> -	acpi_enable();
> +	if (set_sci_en_on_resume)
> +		acpi_set_register(ACPI_BITREG_SCI_ENABLE, 1);
> +	else
> +		acpi_enable();
> +
>  	/* Reprogram control registers and execute _BFS */
>  	acpi_leave_sleep_state_prep(acpi_state);
>  
> @@ -337,6 +353,12 @@ static int __init init_old_suspend_order
>  	return 0;
>  }
>  
> +static int __init init_set_sci_en_on_resume(const struct dmi_system_id *d)
> +{
> +	set_sci_en_on_resume = true;
> +	return 0;
> +}
> +
>  static struct dmi_system_id __initdata acpisleep_dmi_table[] = {
>  	{
>  	.callback = init_old_suspend_ordering,
> @@ -354,6 +376,22 @@ static struct dmi_system_id __initdata a
>  		DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "HP xw4600 Workstation"),
>  		},
>  	},
> +	{
> +	.callback = init_set_sci_en_on_resume,
> +	.ident = "Apple MacBook 1,1",
> +	.matches = {
> +		DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, "Apple Computer, Inc."),
> +		DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "MacBook1,1"),
> +		},
> +	},
> +	{
> +	.callback = init_set_sci_en_on_resume,
> +	.ident = "Apple MacMini 1,1",
> +	.matches = {
> +		DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, "Apple Computer, Inc."),
> +		DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "Macmini1,1"),
> +		},
> +	},
>  	{},
>  };
>  #endif /* CONFIG_SUSPEND */
> --
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> 



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in the first place.  So if you're as clever as you can be when you write it,
how will you ever debug it? --- Brian Kernighan

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread

* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-15 23:04                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2008-11-16 20:27                         ` Bob Copeland
  2008-12-08  7:55                         ` Tino Keitel
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Bob Copeland @ 2008-11-16 20:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki
  Cc: Tino Keitel, linux-kernel, stable, Greg KH,
	ACPI Devel Maling List, Len Brown

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:04:16AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, 13 of November 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Thursday, 13 of November 2008, Tino Keitel wrote:
> 
> This patch also applies to current -stable, so you can test it on top of that.
> 
> I need your confirmation that the patch works to push it upstream.

I can at least confirm the Macbook side of this works fine.  
 
-- 
Bob Copeland %% www.bobcopeland.com


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread

* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-11-15 23:04                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2008-11-16 20:27                         ` Bob Copeland
@ 2008-12-08  7:55                         ` Tino Keitel
  2008-12-08 11:25                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Tino Keitel @ 2008-12-08  7:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki
  Cc: linux-kernel, stable, Greg KH, ACPI Devel Maling List, Len Brown,
	Bob Copeland

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 00:04:16 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, 13 of November 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

[...]

> > Please try the appended patch on top of the Linus' tree.
> 
> This patch also applies to current -stable, so you can test it on top of that.
> 
> I need your confirmation that the patch works to push it upstream.

Hi,

I saw that 2.6.27.8 still missed that fix, maybe because I forgot to
send any confirmation. So, yes, this patch fixes the regression for me.

Regards,
Tino

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread

* Re: [stable] Suspend regression in stable kernel 2.6.27.4 on Mac mini Core Duo
  2008-12-08  7:55                         ` Tino Keitel
@ 2008-12-08 11:25                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2008-12-08 11:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tino Keitel
  Cc: linux-kernel, stable, Greg KH, ACPI Devel Maling List, Len Brown,
	Bob Copeland

On Monday, 8 of December 2008, Tino Keitel wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 00:04:16 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Thursday, 13 of November 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > Please try the appended patch on top of the Linus' tree.
> > 
> > This patch also applies to current -stable, so you can test it on top of that.
> > 
> > I need your confirmation that the patch works to push it upstream.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I saw that 2.6.27.8 still missed that fix, maybe because I forgot to
> send any confirmation. So, yes, this patch fixes the regression for me.

Thanks.

I sent the inclusion request to -stable, but apparently it was too late for
2.6.27.8.

Rafael

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread

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