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From: Fabio Checconi <fchecconi@gmail.com>
To: Aaron Carroll <aaronc@gelato.unsw.edu.au>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Nauman Rafique <nauman@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [patch 0/4] [RFC] Another proportional weight IO controller
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:17:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081119101701.GA20915@gandalf.sssup.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4923716A.5090104@gelato.unsw.edu.au>
> From: Aaron Carroll <aaronc@gelato.unsw.edu.au>
> Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2008 12:52:42PM +1100
>
> Fabio Checconi wrote:
> > - To detect hw tagging in BFQ we consider a sample valid iff the
> > number of requests that the scheduler could have dispatched (given
> > by cfqd->rb_queued + cfqd->rq_in_driver, i.e., the ones still into
> > the scheduler plus the ones into the driver) is higher than the
> > CFQ_HW_QUEUE_MIN threshold. This obviously caused no problems
> > during testing, but the way CFQ uses now seems a little bit
> > strange.
>
> BFQ's tag detection logic is broken in the same way that CFQ's used to
> be. Explanation is in this patch:
>
If you look at bfq_update_hw_tag(), the logic introduced by the patch
you mention is still there; BFQ starts with ->hw_tag = 1, and updates it
every 32 valid samples. What changed WRT your patch, apart from the
number of samples, is that the condition for a sample to be valid is:
bfqd->rq_in_driver + bfqd->queued >= 5
while in your patch it is:
cfqd->rq_queued > 5 || cfqd->rq_in_driver > 5
We preferred the first one because that sum better reflects the number
of requests that could have been dispatched, and I don't think that this
is wrong.
There is a problem, but it's not within the tag detection logic itself.
>From some quick experiments, what happens is that when a process starts,
CFQ considers it seeky (*), BFQ doesn't. As a side effect BFQ does not
always dispatch enough requests to correctly detect tagging.
At the first seek you cannot tell if the process is going to bee seeky
or not, and we have chosen to consider it sequential because it improved
fairness in some sequential workloads (the CIC_SEEKY heuristic is used
also to determine the idle_window length in [bc]fq_arm_slice_timer()).
Anyway, we're dealing with heuristics, and they tend to favor some
workload over other ones. If recovering this thoughput loss is more
important than a transient unfairness due to short idling windows assigned
to sequential processes when they start, I've no problems in switching
the CIC_SEEKY logic to consider a process seeky when it starts.
Thank you for testing and for pointing out this issue, we missed it
in our testing.
(*) to be correct, the initial classification depends on the position
of the first accessed sector.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-19 10:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-06 15:30 vgoyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 1/4] io controller: documentation vgoyal
2008-11-07 2:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 14:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-10 2:48 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-10 13:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 2/4] io controller: biocgroup implementation vgoyal
2008-11-07 2:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 4:19 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-11-07 14:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementation logic vgoyal
2008-11-07 3:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 14:50 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-08 2:35 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementationlogic KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-11 8:50 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementation logic Gui Jianfeng
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 4/4] io controller: Put IO controller to use in device mapper and standard make_request() function vgoyal
2008-11-06 15:49 ` [patch 0/4] [RFC] Another proportional weight IO controller Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:39 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:57 ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-06 17:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-07 0:41 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-07 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-09 9:40 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-06 17:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 23:07 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-07 14:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-07 21:36 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-10 14:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-11 19:55 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-11 22:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-12 21:20 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-13 13:49 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-13 18:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 19:15 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-13 22:27 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-13 23:10 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-14 4:58 ` Satoshi UCHIDA
2008-11-14 8:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-14 10:06 ` Satoshi UCHIDA
2008-11-06 16:47 ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-07 2:36 ` Gui Jianfeng
2008-11-07 13:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 9:05 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-13 15:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 18:41 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-13 21:46 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 22:57 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-14 16:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-14 22:44 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-17 14:23 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 2:02 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-18 5:01 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 7:42 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-18 22:23 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 12:05 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 14:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 14:41 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 19:12 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-18 19:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 21:14 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 1:52 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-11-19 10:17 ` Fabio Checconi [this message]
2008-11-19 11:06 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-20 4:45 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-11-20 6:56 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 14:30 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-19 15:52 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 23:07 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-19 14:24 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-20 0:12 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-20 8:16 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-20 13:40 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 19:54 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-20 21:15 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 22:42 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-21 15:22 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-26 6:40 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-26 15:18 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 21:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-21 3:05 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-21 14:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-21 15:21 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 22:33 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 23:44 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 7:09 ` Paolo Valente
2008-11-13 22:13 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 9:20 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-20 13:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-25 2:33 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-25 16:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-25 22:38 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-26 14:06 ` Paolo Valente
2008-11-26 19:41 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-26 22:21 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-26 11:55 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-26 12:47 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-26 16:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-27 8:43 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-28 3:09 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-28 13:33 ` Ryo Tsuruta
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