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From: Fabio Checconi <fchecconi@gmail.com>
To: Aaron Carroll <aaronc@gelato.unsw.edu.au>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Nauman Rafique <nauman@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [patch 0/4] [RFC] Another proportional weight IO controller
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:06:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081119110655.GC20915@gandalf.sssup.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081119101701.GA20915@gandalf.sssup.it>
> From: Fabio Checconi <fchecconi@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2008 11:17:01AM +0100
>
> > From: Aaron Carroll <aaronc@gelato.unsw.edu.au>
> > Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2008 12:52:42PM +1100
> >
> > Fabio Checconi wrote:
> > > - To detect hw tagging in BFQ we consider a sample valid iff the
> > > number of requests that the scheduler could have dispatched (given
> > > by cfqd->rb_queued + cfqd->rq_in_driver, i.e., the ones still into
> > > the scheduler plus the ones into the driver) is higher than the
> > > CFQ_HW_QUEUE_MIN threshold. This obviously caused no problems
> > > during testing, but the way CFQ uses now seems a little bit
> > > strange.
> >
> > BFQ's tag detection logic is broken in the same way that CFQ's used to
> > be. Explanation is in this patch:
> >
>
> If you look at bfq_update_hw_tag(), the logic introduced by the patch
> you mention is still there; BFQ starts with ->hw_tag = 1, and updates it
> every 32 valid samples. What changed WRT your patch, apart from the
> number of samples, is that the condition for a sample to be valid is:
>
> bfqd->rq_in_driver + bfqd->queued >= 5
>
> while in your patch it is:
>
> cfqd->rq_queued > 5 || cfqd->rq_in_driver > 5
>
> We preferred the first one because that sum better reflects the number
> of requests that could have been dispatched, and I don't think that this
> is wrong.
>
> There is a problem, but it's not within the tag detection logic itself.
> From some quick experiments, what happens is that when a process starts,
> CFQ considers it seeky (*), BFQ doesn't. As a side effect BFQ does not
> always dispatch enough requests to correctly detect tagging.
>
> At the first seek you cannot tell if the process is going to bee seeky
> or not, and we have chosen to consider it sequential because it improved
> fairness in some sequential workloads (the CIC_SEEKY heuristic is used
> also to determine the idle_window length in [bc]fq_arm_slice_timer()).
>
> Anyway, we're dealing with heuristics, and they tend to favor some
> workload over other ones. If recovering this thoughput loss is more
> important than a transient unfairness due to short idling windows assigned
> to sequential processes when they start, I've no problems in switching
> the CIC_SEEKY logic to consider a process seeky when it starts.
>
> Thank you for testing and for pointing out this issue, we missed it
> in our testing.
>
>
> (*) to be correct, the initial classification depends on the position
> of the first accessed sector.
Sorry, I forgot the patch... This seems to solve the problem with
your workload here, does it work for you?
[ The magic number would not appear in a definitive fix... ]
---
diff --git a/block/bfq-iosched.c b/block/bfq-iosched.c
index 83e90e9..e9b010f 100644
--- a/block/bfq-iosched.c
+++ b/block/bfq-iosched.c
@@ -1322,10 +1322,12 @@ static void bfq_update_io_seektime(struct bfq_data *bfqd,
/*
* Don't allow the seek distance to get too large from the
- * odd fragment, pagein, etc.
+ * odd fragment, pagein, etc. The first request is not
+ * really a seek, but we consider a cic seeky on creation
+ * to make the hw_tag detection logic work better.
*/
- if (cic->seek_samples == 0) /* first request, not really a seek */
- sdist = 0;
+ if (cic->seek_samples == 0)
+ sdist = 8 * 1024 + 1;
else if (cic->seek_samples <= 60) /* second&third seek */
sdist = min(sdist, (cic->seek_mean * 4) + 2*1024*1024);
else
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-19 11:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-06 15:30 vgoyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 1/4] io controller: documentation vgoyal
2008-11-07 2:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 14:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-10 2:48 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-10 13:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 2/4] io controller: biocgroup implementation vgoyal
2008-11-07 2:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 4:19 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-11-07 14:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementation logic vgoyal
2008-11-07 3:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 14:50 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-08 2:35 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementationlogic KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-11 8:50 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementation logic Gui Jianfeng
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 4/4] io controller: Put IO controller to use in device mapper and standard make_request() function vgoyal
2008-11-06 15:49 ` [patch 0/4] [RFC] Another proportional weight IO controller Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:39 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:57 ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-06 17:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-07 0:41 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-07 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-09 9:40 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-06 17:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 23:07 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-07 14:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-07 21:36 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-10 14:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-11 19:55 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-11 22:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-12 21:20 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-13 13:49 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-13 18:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 19:15 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-13 22:27 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-13 23:10 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-14 4:58 ` Satoshi UCHIDA
2008-11-14 8:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-14 10:06 ` Satoshi UCHIDA
2008-11-06 16:47 ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-07 2:36 ` Gui Jianfeng
2008-11-07 13:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 9:05 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-13 15:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 18:41 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-13 21:46 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 22:57 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-14 16:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-14 22:44 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-17 14:23 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 2:02 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-18 5:01 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 7:42 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-18 22:23 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 12:05 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 14:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 14:41 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 19:12 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-18 19:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 21:14 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 1:52 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-11-19 10:17 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 11:06 ` Fabio Checconi [this message]
2008-11-20 4:45 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-11-20 6:56 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 14:30 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-19 15:52 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 23:07 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-19 14:24 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-20 0:12 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-20 8:16 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-20 13:40 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 19:54 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-20 21:15 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 22:42 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-21 15:22 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-26 6:40 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-26 15:18 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 21:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-21 3:05 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-21 14:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-21 15:21 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 22:33 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 23:44 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 7:09 ` Paolo Valente
2008-11-13 22:13 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 9:20 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-20 13:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-25 2:33 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-25 16:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-25 22:38 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-26 14:06 ` Paolo Valente
2008-11-26 19:41 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-26 22:21 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-26 11:55 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-26 12:47 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-26 16:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-27 8:43 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-28 3:09 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-28 13:33 ` Ryo Tsuruta
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