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From: Fabio Checconi <fchecconi@gmail.com>
To: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Nauman Rafique <nauman@google.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Divyesh Shah <dpshah@google.com>,
	Ryo Tsuruta <ryov@valinux.co.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, taka@valinux.co.jp,
	righi.andrea@gmail.com, s-uchida@ap.jp.nec.com,
	fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp, balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, menage@google.com, ngupta@google.com,
	riel@redhat.com, jmoyer@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	paolo.valente@unimore.it
Subject: Re: [patch 0/4] [RFC] Another proportional weight IO controller
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:52:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081119155211.GE20915@gandalf.sssup.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081119143006.GI26308@kernel.dk>

> From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
> Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2008 03:30:07PM +0100
>
> On Tue, Nov 18 2008, Fabio Checconi wrote:
...
> >   - In cfq_exit_single_io_context() and in changed_ioprio(), cic->key
> >     is dereferenced without holding any lock.  As I reported in [1]
> >     this seems to be a problem when an exit() races with a cfq_exit_queue()
> >     and in a few other cases.  In BFQ we used a somehow involved
> >     mechanism to avoid that, abusing rcu (of course we'll have to wait
> >     the patch to talk about it :) ), but given my lack of understanding
> >     of some parts of the block layer, I'd be interested in knowing if
> >     the race is possible and/or if there is something more involved
> >     going on that can cause the same effects.
> 
> OK, I'm assuming this is where Nikanth got his idea for the patch from?

I think so.


> It does seem racy in spots, we can definitely proceed on getting that
> tightened up some more.
> 
> >   - set_task_ioprio() in fs/ioprio.c doesn't seem to have a write
> >     memory barrier to pair with the dependent read one in
> >     cfq_get_io_context().
> 
> Agree, that needs fixing.
> 
> >   - CFQ_MIN_TT is 2ms, this can result, depending on the value of
> >     HZ in timeouts of one jiffy, that may expire too early, so we are
> >     just wasting time and do not actually wait for the task to present
> >     its new request.  Dealing with seeky traffic we've seen a lot of
> >     early timeouts due to one jiffy timers expiring too early, is
> >     it worth fixing or can we live with that?
> 
> We probably just need to enfore a '2 jiffies minimum' rule for that.
> 
> >   - To detect hw tagging in BFQ we consider a sample valid iff the
> >     number of requests that the scheduler could have dispatched (given
> >     by cfqd->rb_queued + cfqd->rq_in_driver, i.e., the ones still into
> >     the scheduler plus the ones into the driver) is higher than the
> >     CFQ_HW_QUEUE_MIN threshold.  This obviously caused no problems
> >     during testing, but the way CFQ uses now seems a little bit
> >     strange.
> 
> Not sure this matters a whole lot, but your approach makes sense. Have
> you seen the later change to the CFQ logic from Aaron?
> 

Yes, we started from his code.  As Aaron reported, on BFQ our change
to the CIC_SEEKY logic has a bad interaction with the hw tag detection
on some workloads, but that problem should be easy to solve (test patch
posted in http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/11/19/100).


> >   - Initially, cic->last_request_pos is zero, so the sdist charged
> >     to a task for its first seek depends on the position on the disk
> >     that is accessed first, independently from its seekiness.  Even
> >     if there is a cap on that value, we choose to not charge the first
> >     seek to processes; that resulted in less wrong predictions for
> >     purely sequential loads.
> 
> Agreed, that's is definitely off.
> 
> >   - From my understanding, with shared I/O contexts, two different
> >     tasks may concurrently lookup for a cfqd into the same ioc.
> >     This may result in cfq_drop_dead_cic() being called two times
> >     for the same cic.  Am I missing something that prevents that from
> >     happening?
> 
> That also looks problematic. I guess we need to recheck that under the
> lock when in cfq_drop_dead_cic().
> 
> > Regarding the code splitup, do you think you'll go for the CFS(BFQ) way,
> > using a single compilation unit and including the .c files, or a layout
> > with different compilation units (like the ll_rw_blk.c splitup)?
> 
> Different compilation units would be my preferred choice.
> 

Ok, thank you, I'll try to put together and test some patches, and to
post them for discussion in the next few days.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-19 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-06 15:30 vgoyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 1/4] io controller: documentation vgoyal
2008-11-07  2:32   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 14:27     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-10  2:48   ` Li Zefan
2008-11-10 13:44     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 2/4] io controller: biocgroup implementation vgoyal
2008-11-07  2:50   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07  4:19     ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-11-07 14:44     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementation logic vgoyal
2008-11-07  3:21   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 14:50     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-08  2:35       ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementationlogic KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-11  8:50   ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementation logic Gui Jianfeng
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 4/4] io controller: Put IO controller to use in device mapper and standard make_request() function vgoyal
2008-11-06 15:49 ` [patch 0/4] [RFC] Another proportional weight IO controller Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:01   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 16:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:39       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 16:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:57           ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-06 17:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-07  0:41               ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-07 10:31                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-09  9:40                   ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-06 17:08           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 23:07             ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-07 14:19               ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-07 21:36                 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-10 14:11                   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-11 19:55                     ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-11 22:30                       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-12 21:20                         ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-13 13:49                           ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-13 18:08                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 19:15                             ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-13 22:27                               ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-13 23:10                                 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-14  4:58                             ` Satoshi UCHIDA
2008-11-14  8:02                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-14 10:06                                 ` Satoshi UCHIDA
2008-11-06 16:47       ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-07  2:36 ` Gui Jianfeng
2008-11-07 13:38   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13  9:05 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-13 15:58   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 18:41     ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-13 21:46       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 22:57         ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-14 16:05           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-14 22:44             ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-17 14:23               ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18  2:02                 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-18  5:01                   ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18  7:42                     ` Li Zefan
2008-11-18 22:23                       ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 12:05                     ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 14:07                       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 14:41                         ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 19:12                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-18 19:47                             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 21:14                             ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19  1:52                               ` Aaron Carroll
2008-11-19 10:17                                 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 11:06                                   ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-20  4:45                                     ` Aaron Carroll
2008-11-20  6:56                                       ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 14:30                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-19 15:52                                 ` Fabio Checconi [this message]
2008-11-18 23:07                             ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-19 14:24                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-20  0:12                                 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-20  8:16                                   ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-20 13:40                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 19:54                                       ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-20 21:15                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 22:42                                           ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-21 15:22                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-26  6:40                                       ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-26 15:18                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 21:31                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-21  3:05                             ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-21 14:58                               ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-21 15:21                                 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 22:33                       ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 23:44                         ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19  7:09                         ` Paolo Valente
2008-11-13 22:13     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20  9:20       ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-20 13:47         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-25  2:33           ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-25 16:27             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-25 22:38               ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-26 14:06                 ` Paolo Valente
2008-11-26 19:41                   ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-26 22:21                     ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-26 11:55               ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-26 12:47               ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-26 16:08                 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-27  8:43                   ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-28  3:09                     ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-28 13:33                   ` Ryo Tsuruta

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