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From: Fabio Checconi <fchecconi@gmail.com>
To: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Nauman Rafique <nauman@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [patch 0/4] [RFC] Another proportional weight IO controller
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:52:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081119155211.GE20915@gandalf.sssup.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081119143006.GI26308@kernel.dk>
> From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
> Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2008 03:30:07PM +0100
>
> On Tue, Nov 18 2008, Fabio Checconi wrote:
...
> > - In cfq_exit_single_io_context() and in changed_ioprio(), cic->key
> > is dereferenced without holding any lock. As I reported in [1]
> > this seems to be a problem when an exit() races with a cfq_exit_queue()
> > and in a few other cases. In BFQ we used a somehow involved
> > mechanism to avoid that, abusing rcu (of course we'll have to wait
> > the patch to talk about it :) ), but given my lack of understanding
> > of some parts of the block layer, I'd be interested in knowing if
> > the race is possible and/or if there is something more involved
> > going on that can cause the same effects.
>
> OK, I'm assuming this is where Nikanth got his idea for the patch from?
I think so.
> It does seem racy in spots, we can definitely proceed on getting that
> tightened up some more.
>
> > - set_task_ioprio() in fs/ioprio.c doesn't seem to have a write
> > memory barrier to pair with the dependent read one in
> > cfq_get_io_context().
>
> Agree, that needs fixing.
>
> > - CFQ_MIN_TT is 2ms, this can result, depending on the value of
> > HZ in timeouts of one jiffy, that may expire too early, so we are
> > just wasting time and do not actually wait for the task to present
> > its new request. Dealing with seeky traffic we've seen a lot of
> > early timeouts due to one jiffy timers expiring too early, is
> > it worth fixing or can we live with that?
>
> We probably just need to enfore a '2 jiffies minimum' rule for that.
>
> > - To detect hw tagging in BFQ we consider a sample valid iff the
> > number of requests that the scheduler could have dispatched (given
> > by cfqd->rb_queued + cfqd->rq_in_driver, i.e., the ones still into
> > the scheduler plus the ones into the driver) is higher than the
> > CFQ_HW_QUEUE_MIN threshold. This obviously caused no problems
> > during testing, but the way CFQ uses now seems a little bit
> > strange.
>
> Not sure this matters a whole lot, but your approach makes sense. Have
> you seen the later change to the CFQ logic from Aaron?
>
Yes, we started from his code. As Aaron reported, on BFQ our change
to the CIC_SEEKY logic has a bad interaction with the hw tag detection
on some workloads, but that problem should be easy to solve (test patch
posted in http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/11/19/100).
> > - Initially, cic->last_request_pos is zero, so the sdist charged
> > to a task for its first seek depends on the position on the disk
> > that is accessed first, independently from its seekiness. Even
> > if there is a cap on that value, we choose to not charge the first
> > seek to processes; that resulted in less wrong predictions for
> > purely sequential loads.
>
> Agreed, that's is definitely off.
>
> > - From my understanding, with shared I/O contexts, two different
> > tasks may concurrently lookup for a cfqd into the same ioc.
> > This may result in cfq_drop_dead_cic() being called two times
> > for the same cic. Am I missing something that prevents that from
> > happening?
>
> That also looks problematic. I guess we need to recheck that under the
> lock when in cfq_drop_dead_cic().
>
> > Regarding the code splitup, do you think you'll go for the CFS(BFQ) way,
> > using a single compilation unit and including the .c files, or a layout
> > with different compilation units (like the ll_rw_blk.c splitup)?
>
> Different compilation units would be my preferred choice.
>
Ok, thank you, I'll try to put together and test some patches, and to
post them for discussion in the next few days.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-19 15:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-06 15:30 vgoyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 1/4] io controller: documentation vgoyal
2008-11-07 2:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 14:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-10 2:48 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-10 13:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 2/4] io controller: biocgroup implementation vgoyal
2008-11-07 2:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 4:19 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-11-07 14:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementation logic vgoyal
2008-11-07 3:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 14:50 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-08 2:35 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementationlogic KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-11 8:50 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementation logic Gui Jianfeng
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 4/4] io controller: Put IO controller to use in device mapper and standard make_request() function vgoyal
2008-11-06 15:49 ` [patch 0/4] [RFC] Another proportional weight IO controller Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:39 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:57 ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-06 17:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-07 0:41 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-07 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-09 9:40 ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-06 17:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 23:07 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-07 14:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-07 21:36 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-10 14:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-11 19:55 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-11 22:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-12 21:20 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-13 13:49 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-13 18:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 19:15 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-13 22:27 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-13 23:10 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-14 4:58 ` Satoshi UCHIDA
2008-11-14 8:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-14 10:06 ` Satoshi UCHIDA
2008-11-06 16:47 ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-07 2:36 ` Gui Jianfeng
2008-11-07 13:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 9:05 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-13 15:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 18:41 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-13 21:46 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 22:57 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-14 16:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-14 22:44 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-17 14:23 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 2:02 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-18 5:01 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 7:42 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-18 22:23 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 12:05 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 14:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 14:41 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 19:12 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-18 19:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 21:14 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 1:52 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-11-19 10:17 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 11:06 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-20 4:45 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-11-20 6:56 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 14:30 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-19 15:52 ` Fabio Checconi [this message]
2008-11-18 23:07 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-19 14:24 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-20 0:12 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-20 8:16 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-20 13:40 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 19:54 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-20 21:15 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 22:42 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-21 15:22 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-26 6:40 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-26 15:18 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 21:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-21 3:05 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-21 14:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-21 15:21 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 22:33 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 23:44 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 7:09 ` Paolo Valente
2008-11-13 22:13 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 9:20 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-20 13:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-25 2:33 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-25 16:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-25 22:38 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-26 14:06 ` Paolo Valente
2008-11-26 19:41 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-26 22:21 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-26 11:55 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-26 12:47 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-26 16:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-27 8:43 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-28 3:09 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-28 13:33 ` Ryo Tsuruta
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